[Wallet]

What do we think of Kell Brook now? Stronger for the gut-check, or did it show flaws?

Can Gavin Rees win a world title?

Proksa vs Barker?

Does Eubank take too many punches? Or is he being matched hard early on?

Which awful opponent will Fury face next?


Your thoughts. :think

 

[Tecate]

brook bailey be interesting if brook cud stay away and box like he did first 6 rounds he would beat bailey cos bailey waits alot and i cant c brook walking onto something be a good fight

 

[GazOC]

Bit of both for Brook. Showed a fighting spirit that can't be taught but at the same time didn't convincingly answer the questions whether he was ready for the cream of the division. In the post fight interview Eddie Hearn seemed to be favouring taking another fight at a similar level to Jones and thats probably the right move IMHO.

 

[Drew101]

Rees already won a world title in the past, and seems to be a better fighter at this stage of his career. So, yeah...it's not out of the question that he can get another title on his resume, depending on who he faces.

Jones is all kinds of tough, and is precisely the kind of bull-strong swarmer that Brook was going to have to face at some point. Provided Brook isn't too shaken up by this gut check, he should be better for the experience.

Barker did quite wel against a much better southpaw in Martinez, and was in the fight until his eardrum was perforated. I think he'll do well against Proksa.

 

[Casual Benson's Unknown]

I think a bit of both in regards to Brook, he showed a decent chin and showed heart and guts to carry on with a fucked nose and running on empty, but also he did start slowing down sooner than you'd think he should, he didn't show much infighting ability though. But still he wasn't exposed as i'm sure some Americans will say he was.

Rees won't win a world title, I think he's solid Euro level, and 135 isn't swimming with talent atm with a few of the top fighters moving up recently, but Rees isn't quite at that level imo

Didn't watch Eubank, but I will say he is definitely being matched tough early, whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen, but as I said I can't really comment having not watched the fight

I'd like Fury to have a sink or swim fight against a Chagaev or a Dimitrenko or someone at that kind of level, but it will without a doubt be some overweight slugger, maybe a contender from the 90's who's now in his 40's with a bit of a gut.

 

[Tecate]

been told by craigs brother in law that theres talk of mcewan vs barker for septmember if Hope has been beat tonight:

him:talk of darren barker. find out sunday after the kerry hope fight

me:ally who needs to win for craigy boy to get the barker fight?i

him: if russian boy wins easy but not sure. ken boxing nothing definate

 

[Casual Benson's Unknown]

Oh and Barker wide against Proksa, I said in the rbr why but I cba so basically Proksa is too wild.


Oh and Brook would dominate Bailey, I give Bailey maybe a 1% chance of landing something big, he doesn't throw enough to take brook into deep waters.

 

[doug.ie]

kell brook...will come on from that...but i'm still not a full believer in him as a future world champ...but based as much on me not being a fan of that loose ingle style than what i seen tonight

gavin rees...dunno actually...is he as good as he once was?...i think he is...is the wba title vacant ?...thats the old firm he was belt holder with, so maybe..

fury...anything that keeps him away from price, and gets him world title shot

 

[Bajingo]

What do we think of Kell Brook now? Stronger for the gut-check, or did it show flaws?

Both. There's a lot he needs to work on but he'll be stronger in future fights after having come though that. I get the feeling the hype will cool off a bit which could be a good thing.

Can Gavin Rees win a world title?

None of the lightweight champs would have much trouble with him IMO. And his stamina's still questionable at best.

Proksa vs Barker?

Good fight but I'd favour Barker. Proksa's wild offensively and I can't see him landing much at all, when you look at how well Barker was neutralising Sergio's offense. And they'll be plenty of opportunities for Barker to land his own shots.

Does Eubank take too many punches? Or is he being matched hard early on?

He does and I can't see him gong very far unfortunately. But whatever level he gets to he'll be in good fights.

Which awful opponent will Fury face next?

My money's on Tye Fields.

 

[CamR21]

It was the perfect fight for Brook. I feel he was starting to believe all the hype surrounding him and thought he would easily beat Jones in there tonight, maybe that lead to him cutting a few corners in his preparation? Most fighters would have lost that fight in Kell's position tonight but it showed great courage and true fighting spirit that he was able to hang on for the victory and that will only benefit him in the future when the situation arises again.

Rees IMO can't win a world title, he would give it a good go but I just don't think he has the stamina or the skills to beat an elite fighter at LW.

Fury needs a big step up in class, he has a lot of ability but fighting at this level is doing nothing for his career and may actually hinder him in the long run. Personally I'd like to see him in with someone like Johnathon Banks which would offer a tough challenge but not a top 15 fighter as I don't feel he is quite ready to break into that group yet. Although knowing Mick it will probably be someone poor.

As for Eubank I just don't see it I really don't, he just seems to lack any basic defence and can't seem to establish a jab to allow him to put his punches together and establish a rhythm. Once he faces a puncher at MW it will be lights out for him if he doesn't seriously refine his technique.

Proksa was impressive tonight and boxed like he should have done the first night. IMO though he needs a change of trainer to sort out his defence which is pretty much non existent in there, he seems to rely solely on reflexes when defending against opponents which is all very well when facing Kerry Hope, but the higher level fighter will punish him for that and he wouldn't stand a chance if he boxes like that. On tonight's performance I would give Barker the slight edge although I think Proksa is the more talented boxer

 

[GazOC]

True Cam. At least now Brook can be under no illusions what its going to take to make the next step up. Its up to him whether he's willing and able to do that.

 

[Chatty]

Wasn't impressed with brook tonight, he has the skill but really made a meal out of the fight and let Jones into a fight he shouldn't have been in. When he buzzed him early he was stepping back and not punishing him. When he hurt him late he was getting in too close and not getting the shots of he needed to. His early showing was good but when Jones put pressure on, as much as he showed good heart, he didn't deal with it as a world class operator should.

Either way he has one of the easier belt holders at the weight but bailey could do some serious damage to him as he hits twice as hard as Jones does and Alexander would be a terrible style match up for us to watch so i hope Bailey pulls it off.

Rees was good when he wanted to be but sat off Matthews too much early, not sure which world titlist he would get but I'd fancy DeMarco, Broner and Vasquez to do a number on him.

Proksa did what he should have done the first time. Good display but still questions surrounding him after the first fight.

Couldn't watch the other cards so ill see what I make out of them tomorrow.

 

[GazOC]

A lot of those faults in the second half of the fight Chatty were probably down to stamina rather than technical issues. They are still a problem but maybe solved by hard work rather than back to the drawing board problems.

 

[Chatty]

I do agree Gaz and I hope he has learnt a lesson from this as I feel he has what it takes to compete at world level. there may have been stamina problems but at points he looked very lethargic and didn't cope with the pressure as you feel a guy of his talent should do.

He hasn't really been in a fight like that before so I suppose its better he learns now than against an opponent who could really punish him but kell and his team need to have a look at what they didn't do well tonight and make sure he is better prepared in the future.

if that was bailey in there tonight I have no doubt he wouldn't have made it to the final bell.

 

[GazOC]

A problem with the welterweight is that, as it stands, you have Kell Brook, then the proven world class fighters and then the best 2 fighters in the division!

 

[Mandanda]

Kell looked fantastic offensively for first half of the fight, Jones made him look good in some part walking in straight lines but Brook was boxing extremely well to his credit. Problem was he was being made to fight at a pace, he started to fight close the ropes and the worrying thing was how quickly he went from top class to near on out on his feet gassed. It was far to quick, something clearly isn't right there with his stamina...

But my biggest gripe isn't with Kell it's with his shambles of a corner tonight who could of cost him bigtime, He showed bottle even nicked a round or two late on IMO due to boxing off back foot and kept his calm as much as her could while facing adversity and what looked to be a broken nose. The corner were in complete disarray. Shouting, no clear advice, more time spent shouting for a towel and water. Poor prep in between rounds and that's not what any fighter needs when facing his first real challenge at pro level.

 

[GazOC]

Yeah, I saw that in corner Mand. Very poor, even when the equipment was there on time the advice was still a bit lacking.

 

[DrMo]

Brook-Jones was a great fight. Kell looked fantastic for the 1st 5 rounds, he started the 6th in similar vien but had his nose broke & went on the defensive. His stamina is the most worrying thing but, as he mentioned in his post fight interview he needs to improve his diet & conditioning.

My favourite moment of the fight was at the end of the 10th, Kell had been battered around for the whole round & he landed a massive uppercut-left hook. Id like to see a rematch at some point

 

[Chatty]

yeah the corner was poor, no real advise on how he should turn the fight back in his favour.

The thing that got me was that in the first six he showed that he was far superior technically and let Jones stamp his foot into the fight. its not like he was caught with a massive shot that turned the tide, it was more to do with a badly strategized gameplan and stamina problems. Things that should have been taken care of really. i didn't like the fact that for 2-3 rounds he looked like he had no idea how to cope with the tide turning either and was very lethargic at times.

Still though he got through it and once he did start landing some nice shots again near the end he looked a bit more composed (last round aside). I think it will be beneficial to his progress as a fighter though so all in all it isn't so bad and its not like he won a dodgy decision, he just had a very bad mid fight blip.

 

[GazOC]

Yep, Chatty. He's been lucky and had a wake up call but still won the fight.