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7th July - Fight Night Reaction

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What do we think of Kell Brook now? Stronger for the gut-check, or did it show flaws?

Can Gavin Rees win a world title?

Proksa vs Barker?

Does Eubank take too many punches? Or is he being matched hard early on?

Which awful opponent will Fury face next?


Your thoughts. :think
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Brook/ jones great fight, brook has just had a wake up call,he beat the shit outa jones for the 1st half then jones just come back, one hard man, no wonder his head looks like it should b on a heavyweights body, number of times it gets hit.

Eubank is going nowhere, he is not getting put in with superb world beaters, they not even brit beaters,tough guys but someone with this apparent class and ability of eubank jnr he should b walking through them easily, he is no way in this world getting anywhere near a world title, some good good lads at this weight.

Proski will get annihilated by barker, personallyi think he is a but crap ;)
Kell Brook:

I thought he looked absolutely world class for the first half of the fight. He picked his punches well, didn't get drawn in, moved well, and showed power at world level. But the 6th round was the turning point. Brook caught Jones hard, who back peddled. While he was hurt, he drew book on and landed a solid undercut which shock brook up. The second half of the fight, Kell looked completely lost. He didn't know how to deal with the pressure, and he wasn't moving anywhere near as well I he did previously. He showed massive heart and a pretty good chin at times. On my card, he was very fortunate to have nicked the 10th or 11th, as I had it 7-5 Brook.

But I think he'll learn from that. How quickly he deteriorated stamina wise was a concern, so he should look to correct that ASAP. But other than that is was exactly how I thought it was going to be, Jones being good enough to push Kell all the way. Aside from Manny and Floyd, there aren't too many Welters I'd pick to beat him right now. The Lopez fight would be very interesting, and I think he beats Bailey.

Proksa:

My, what an awkward little fucker! On the plus side, he showed he was levels above Hope, he retained the confidence of an unbeaten fighter, and scored a good KO win. Negatively, he is far too wild. He throws that lead left straight/hook from his ankles, and he has no real defence other than his reflexes. While some have made it work for them, I'm not sure Proksa can get away with that for too much longer. Barker would outbox him with the jab, and Macklin would bully him on the inside (Proksa looks a very small middleweight to me). I'd pick both, along with Lee, to beat him.

Rees:

Great fight to start us off with. Derry looked rather good for the first 5 rounds, controlling the pace from the outside, nullifying Rees' leaping jabs. Unfortunately for Matthews, he just ran out of steam. Rees picked the pace up and continually hurt Matthews as the fight went on. It was a good stoppage from the ref IMO. Derry didn't really have anything left, the fight was only going one way, and he would have been stopped at any point. Critically, Rees didn't know how to deal with the size of Matthews which was a worry. Can he win a world title? Gun to my head, I'll say no. While the LW division isn't as strong as it was a few years back (Rios, Guerrero, Marquez etc all moving up), I don't think Rees is good enough to beat Abril, Burns, Vazquez and DeMarco.

Tyson fury:

I don't think he looked too bad actually. He put his shots together nicely, showed pretty good movement, controlled the action, looked solid, and scored the KO win. Of course, we wouldn't expect anything else given the calibre of opponent. What I'm concerned about is how much is the lad learning from this? Mick needs to step him up soon while he is on a roll, or Fury will get bored and sloppy before too long. Some may laugh, but I think he'd beat Adamek who is far too small to be able to deal with him. I'd target Arroela or Chambers. Two good names, both winnable fights IMO.

Chis Eubank Jr:

The lad gets hit far too often for my liking. He also admires his work too much. But I remind myself that he only had 25 or so amateur fights, and 5 pro fights. He is still learning. That said, he doesn't have the power to make that style work for him. Unless we see vast defensive improvements, he'll be found out soon.

Nonito Doniare:

The little shit cost me 135 quid by not winning by KO. I've not seen the fight, but I've instantly gone off the man :lol:

Will watch later and edit the post
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It was the perfect fight for Brook. I feel he was starting to believe all the hype surrounding him and thought he would easily beat Jones in there tonight, maybe that lead to him cutting a few corners in his preparation? Most fighters would have lost that fight in Kell's position tonight but it showed great courage and true fighting spirit that he was able to hang on for the victory and that will only benefit him in the future when the situation arises again.
This.
Donaire has fallen in love with his power, his last two performances have been poor.

Kell will have learned loads from that, far more than smacking around clowns like Philip Kotey for a couple of rounds three times a year.

Fury.... pretty much as I expected. Not sure what the plans are but talk of Adamek is both premature and unrealistic at this stage. I'd stick him in with Povetkin if that fight could be made.

Eubank.... just not seeing it I'm afraid. With that style he's going to be counting stars before long.
The Brook-Jones card really delivered, Rees-Derry and the main event were both really good, I've yet to watch Hope-Proksa.

On Brook, really was a fight of two halfs. Simply, Kell didn't have enough in the tank to maintain his gameplan, I think he's answered some questions about his chin though, it stood up well to everything Jones had to throw at it. Kell will hopefully learn from this and come back better, and the perfect test for whether or not he's taken this lesson on board would be a rematch. :yep
I'm glad Brook was in a tough fight, It showed us he's got a solid chin and a big heart, to fight on when he could hardly breath and tough it out, first 6 or 7 rounds rounds Brook looked exceptional, Jones is a very solid operator and has an very solid jaw IMO.

Kell will have too bring in a strength and conditioning coach, he gassed in about the 8th or 9th round, but stamina issues can be resolved
Good performance from Brook, I had it 116-112, don't know how the hell one judge had it a draw.


As for Rees, I don't see him picking up a belt, unless it's a vacant one.

Proksa/Barker? Barker on points, 8-4/7-5.

Eubank Jr looks like a fairly average prospect to me, he is lacking defensively, but everytime he fights he's in a test which is great for a young lad, Hennessy is matching him perfectly.

Fury is utter dog shit, just like his opponents.
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Anyone else surprised ryan aston lost inside the distance?
Anyone else surprised ryan aston lost inside the distance?
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Didn't know he did, I though he looked a decent fighter against Samuels, how did he lose mate?
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Kell looked fantastic offensively for first half of the fight, Jones made him look good in some part walking in straight lines but Brook was boxing extremely well to his credit. Problem was he was being made to fight at a pace, he started to fight close the ropes and the worrying thing was how quickly he went from top class to near on out on his feet gassed. It was far to quick, something clearly isn't right there with his stamina...

But my biggest gripe isn't with Kell it's with his shambles of a corner tonight who could of cost him bigtime, He showed bottle even nicked a round or two late on IMO due to boxing off back foot and kept his calm as much as her could while facing adversity and what looked to be a broken nose. The corner were in complete disarray. Shouting, no clear advice, more time spent shouting for a towel and water. Poor prep in between rounds and that's not what any fighter needs when facing his first real challenge at pro level.
Don't get me started on that corner, they don't know what they're doing and its dangerous, when they kept sending Towers out that was unnecessary and very risky anything could have happened
:scaredas:

Didn't know he did, I though he looked a decent fighter against Samuels, how did he lose mate?
Retirement at end of 2nd apparently so may have been injured not sure but Hearn must be gutted and he looked good against Samuels as you say
Nonito Doniare:

The little shit cost me 135 quid by not winning by KO. I've not seen the fight, but I've instantly gone off the man :lol:
I like him even more now, didn't have time to get to the bookies and him not winning by KO was the pick I got wrong yesterday. Saved me a few quid.
Retirement at end of 2nd apparently so may have been injured not sure but Hearn must be gutted and he looked good against Samuels as you say
He wasn't injured mate, he got battered I think, according to Hearn on the post fight interview with big Kugan he said something like 'Aston shouldn't have traded with a big puncher'
Aston got stopped lads, As BA said he traded and got PIF.
Aston got stopped lads, As BA said he traded and got PIF.
I knew it was a dangerous fight for Aston, but didn't think he'd get beat! Props to Valentine.
I’m not convinced it’s just a stamina issue for Brook. He’s went 12 rounds before and I wouldn’t say he over extended himself in the first 5 rounds of the fight. I think he caved in mentally because Jones was still coming at him. He done well in the 10th and 11th but Kell was mighty relieved to hear that final bell.
I'm not convinced it's just a stamina issue for Brook. He's went 12 rounds before and I wouldn't say he over extended himself in the first 5 rounds of the fight. I think he caved in mentally because Jones was still coming at him. He done well in the 10th and 11th but Kell was mighty relieved to hear that final bell.
Look at Brooks punches after the 7th round, they're was nothing in them, In the last few he could barely throw a punch he was that exhausted.
Look at Brooks punches after the 7th round, they're was nothing in them, In the last few he could barely throw a punch he was that exhausted.
He was exhausted alright but I don't think it was because of his stamina. He hadn't take much punishment and he wasn't fighting at a ridiculous pace either. Now he had been concentrating extremely hard in the fight and that can be mentally very draining.
Does anyone know where I can watch the fight?
i got it from SoSo boxing this morning Dave
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