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Bute wins a very close decision ....cant slip the right hand and was caught cut and hurt by the slower cruder grachev throughout the fight.

athough im not doing a score collection for this fight...

i had Bute winning 115-113, Bute to me always seemed to be a round or 2 ahead
 

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I only have Grachev 3 rounds. But Bute didn't impress me at all. His swagger has completely gone, he has changed nothing defensively, and he looks even more shit scared up close. In round 7 (I think), he did nothing but move around the ring, almost as if he had been caught clean with a punch and was trying to recover (I didn't see anything land, maybe his corner slapped him in between rounds and it wobbled him).

Compare the Grachev fight with Magee. He broke Magee down (after being hurt in the 4th) but displayed great confidence doing it. With Grachev, that was completely gone. I hate to say it, but I think Froch may have ruined this kid
 

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This Bute hype needs to go. He just isn't that good. Overhyped and overprotected. How boxrec and boxing monthly previously had him as world number 1 I'll never understand. Seriously, what has he ever done?

I'll be disappointed if Froch is forced to go over to Canada to destroy him once again.
 

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I'll be disappointed if Froch is forced to go over to Canada to destroy him once again.
ye it seems like it would be a bit of a waste of time, might make froch some decent £ though? but if i was froch id fight kessler, then an up-and-comer type, then have another crack at ward (i personally think he'd do better in all honesty, he'll make it closer than last time at least) then bow out
 

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Joe Calzaghe ‏@RealJoeCalzaghe
Watching BUTE come back fight on sky. Completely Shot!!!

gavin rees ‏@gavtherock
Watching bute and he wants to forget about a rematch with @Carl_Froch and chase one of the other champs #notinfrochleague
 

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This Bute hype needs to go. He just isn't that good. Overhyped and overprotected. How boxrec and boxing monthly previously had him as world number 1 I'll never understand. Seriously, what has he ever done?

I'll be disappointed if Froch is forced to go over to Canada to destroy him once again.
True, he fought a load of B- fighters and everyone raved about him beating them, sometimes not even particularly impressively. I don't use this term often but he was a pure hype job.
 

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Froch is the man. He still wants to fight the best, avenge his defeats, unify some titles. If you're a boxing fan, how can you not love Froch?
 

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oh and Bute struggled like fuck against opposition he would have previously destroyed. He needs a rematch against Froch like a dose of herpes.
 

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Froch is the man. He still wants to fight the best, avenge his defeats, unify some titles. If you're a boxing fan, how can you not love Froch?
possibly my all time favourite fighter, it was him who got me into boxing and ill be a sad man when he retires
 

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ye it seems like it would be a bit of a waste of time, might make froch some decent £ though? but if i was froch id fight kessler, then an up-and-comer type, then have another crack at ward (i personally think he'd do better in all honesty, he'll make it closer than last time at least) then bow out
I think Ward beats him handily again but Kessler woudl be a great fight. Kessler won clearly in the last fight imo, the rematch would be great but it'd have to be at a higher weight?
 

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This Bute hype needs to go. He just isn't that good. Overhyped and overprotected. How boxrec and boxing monthly previously had him as world number 1 I'll never understand. Seriously, what has he ever done?

I'll be disappointed if Froch is forced to go over to Canada to destroy him once again.
Butes a good fighter on his terms. The KO of Magee was stunning and his win over Johnson was comprehensive whereas Carl struggled to get the job done and ate those right hands for fun.
Butes not a champion and as said it's a joke for boxrec to have rated him as no.1 when Froch, Kessler and Ward were knocking lumps out of one another. For my money all 3 batter Bute. Bute should fight Dirrell, it's an intriguing match up imo.

Froch is obligated to rematch, if Bute is stupid enough to request it then I'll enjoy watching Froch slaughter him on the road. If he does then Bute has to change something. The comment about Froch destroying him is true as far as I'm concerned. If a fighter gets beat in 30 seconds and was caught cold fair enough you can put it down to a mistake but Froch walked through his punches (althought he was rocked) and spanked him at close quarters. I don't know how Bute can learn from that because it's his inside game and defense at fault, in a few fights you cannot change that and he's too long in the tooth to really develop now. I think we've seen the best of him and Froch took his soul.
 

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I think Ward beats him handily again but Kessler woudl be a great fight. Kessler won clearly in the last fight imo, the rematch would be great but it'd have to be at a higher weight?
I don't think so. Kessler was actually talking about going down to Middleweight not long ago... :yikes
 

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I don't think so. Kessler was actually talking about going down to Middleweight not long ago... :yikes
Short of cutting off a foot I dont know how that'd happen. Maybe get him on smack?

This is the same fellow that stripped naked to weigh in against Calzaghe and has stuggled with weight since. He only fought Allen 'only in love with the' Green at 170-172 the other day for a WBC Bauble.

Kessler v Pascal is a fight I wanna see. Froch fighting the winner?
 
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