[King Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Ricky Burns
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Nathan Cleverly
6. (6.) Ola Afolabi
7. (7.) Kell Brook
8. (8.) Matthew Macklin
9. (9.) George Groves
10. (10.) Carl Frampton

11. (11.) Tyson Fury
12. (17.) Darren Barker
13. (12.) Jamie McDonnell
14. (13.) Scott Quigg
15. (18.) Tony Bellew
16. (14.) James DeGale
17. (15.) Lee Selby
18. (16.) Gavin Rees
19. (19.) Martin Murray
20. (20.) Gary Buckland

21. (21.) Andy Lee (Irish)
22. (22.) Kevin Satchell
23. (23.) David Price
24. (24.) Brian Magee (Irish)
25. (25.) Brian Rose
26. (26.) Frankie Gavin
27. (27.) Kevin Mitchell
28. (28.) Lee Haskins
29. (29.) Rendall Munroe
30. (30.) Dereck Chisora

 

[King Horse]

Any comments or criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

 

[scribbs]

29. (29.) Rendall Munroe

Ain't he retired?

 

[dkos]

Have you ever made a change to one of your lists based on criticism given by other people?

 

[King Horse]

29. (29.) Rendall Munroe

Ain't he retired?

Yes.

 

[King Horse]

Have you ever made a change to one of your lists based on criticism given by other people?

If they convince me.

There seems to be some sort of insanity on this forum. You lot (at least a few of you) seem to think that anything you say is absolute gold and should be accepted as such by anyone who reads it.

 

[scribbs]

Yes.

How come he's on the list? Do you wait a while before officially deleting them from the rankings in case they change their mind or was this just an oversight?

 

[King Horse]

How come he's on the list? Do you wait a while before officially deleting them from the rankings in case they change their mind or was this just an oversight?

I wait a while. Boxers often change their mind about retirement.

 

[dkos]

If they convince me.

There seems to be some sort of insanity on this forum. You lot (at least a few of you) seem to think that anything you say is absolute gold and should be accepted as such by anyone who reads it.

I've pointed out that Kevin Satchell - who is currently ranked at number 22 in your rankings - is fighting in the most shallow domestic division. A domestic division that, according to BoxRec, has just 8 (!) active boxers operating in. So just because he is the number 1 in that division, it really doesn't mean much - at all - in a P4P sense.

As a comparison, I will even use a boxer that is not even in your top 30: Billy Joe Saunders.

Saunders' best wins:
Nick Blackwell
Matthew Hall
Jarrod Fletcher
Bradley Pryce
Tony Hill
Kevin Hammond
Lee Noble
Gary Boulden

Satchell's best wins:
Luke Wilton
Chris Edwards
Paul Edwards
Martin Power

Can you honestly tell me Satchell has a better record than BJS?

 

[King Horse]

I've pointed out that Kevin Satchell - who is currently ranked at number 22 in your rankings - is fighting in the most shallow domestic division. A domestic division that, according to BoxRec, has just 8 (!) active boxers operating in. So just because he is the number 1 in that division, it really doesn't mean much - at all - in a P4P sense.

As a comparison, I will even use a boxer that is not even in your top 30: Billy Joe Saunders.

Saunders' best wins:
Nick Blackwell
Matthew Hall
Jarrod Fletcher
Bradley Pryce
Tony Hill
Kevin Hammond
Lee Noble
Gary Boulden

Satchell's best wins:
Luke Wilton
Chris Edwards
Paul Edwards
Martin Power

Can you honestly tell me Satchell has a better record than BJS?

Satchell fights good domestic fighters at their own weight. Saunders has dragged some of his best opponents up a division.

Satchell has the better record in my opinion.

 

[adamcanavan]

Satchell fights good domestic fighters at their own weight. Saunders has dragged some of his best opponents up a division.

Satchell has the better record in my opinion.

No way imo, bjs is definitely top 30 even if you dont think above satchell

 

[King Horse]

No way imo, bjs is definitely top 30 even if you dont think above satchell

He keeps dragging up light middleweights, it is pathetic.

He needs to fight proven middleweights.

 

[Bryn]

@dkos has just owned you and shown your own bias in your rankings. At least Big Dunk will relent when proven wrong.

 

[dkos]

Satchell fights good domestic fighters at their own weight. Saunders has dragged some of his best opponents up a division.

Satchell has the better record in my opinion.

As I've pointed out plenty of times already, flyweight is a terrible division domestically. This is a division that in recent times saw Usman Ahmed get a British title opportunity. I could also point out that Chris Edwards and Power especially were past their best when Satchell beat them, while Paul Edwards has never been much to write home about. For me, his last win over Wilton is the only one that stands out.

BJS has 'dragged' up two fighters to middleweight. Two. Remove Hall and Pryce from his record if you want, it is still better than Satchell's.

 

[King Horse]

@dkos has just owned you and shown your own bias in your rankings. At least Big Dunk will relent when proven wrong.

Owned me, my bottom. BJS fights blown up light middleweights. Do you deny that?

 

[King Horse]

As I've pointed out plenty of times already, flyweight is a terrible division domestically. This is a division that in recent times saw Usman Ahmed get a British title opportunity. I could also point out that Chris Edwards and Power especially were past their best when Satchell beat them, while Paul Edwards has never been much to write home about. For me, his last win over Wilton is the only one that stands out.

BJS has 'dragged' up two fighters to middleweight. Two. Remove Hall and Pryce from his record if you want, it is still better than Satchell's.

They are pretty much his best wins. His record is totally unworthy of top 30 consideration without those two wins.

 

[Indigo Pab]

Owned me, my bottom.

:rofl

 

[adamcanavan]

He keeps dragging up light middleweights, it is pathetic.

He needs to fight proven middleweights.

You seem to dislike bjs and this is your reasoning for keeping him out, a couple of opponents have come up in weiht but then you look at solid wins like fletcher and blackwell. You cant deny he has an impressive resume, deserving of a top 30 spot at least, if not higher.

 

[Bryn]

Come on, Horse. Your entire reasoning for keeping your rankings as they are is pure pig ignorance.

 

[King Horse]

You seem to dislike bjs and this is your reasoning for keeping him out, a couple of opponents have come up in weiht but then you look at solid wins like fletcher and blackwell. You cant deny he has an impressive resume, deserving of a top 30 spot at least, if not higher.

I do deny he deserves a top 30 place, otherwise I would have him in the top 30.

He is one of the leading contenders for a place, but he should fight more legitimate middleweights or drop down a division.