[Kurushi]

Couldn't see a thread for this all Ohio showdown...in Vegas on June 20th.

I'm picking Broner by UD. It might start competitively but as the fight goes on Adrien will neutralise Porter's aggression to win a respectably wide points decision. How do you all see it going?

 

[bballchump11]

I'm glad somebody finally made a poll for this fight. This is the fight of the summer for me and Errol Spence is the co main event

 

[Floyd_g.o.a.t]

I got Broner on points.

 

[Berliner]

Porter will have problems making the catchweight. Guy is already tight at 147.

 

[Kurushi]

I'm glad somebody finally made a poll for this fight. This is the fight of the summer for me and Errol Spence is the co main event

Yeah, I was surprised that I couldn't find anything when I searched existing threads. A lot of fights worth watching that night. Broner/Porter, Spence/Garcia, Ward/Smith Lemieux/N'Dam

 

[rjjfan]

CW makes the difference, Broner by pts. Although I'll be supporting Porter.

 

[bballchump11]

Yeah, I was surprised that I couldn't find anything when I searched existing threads. A lot of fights worth watching that night. Broner/Porter, Spence/Garcia, Ward/Smith Lemieux/N'Dam

yeah, I won't be going out that night :yep

This fight is interesting to me because really Porter should beat the shit out of Broner. The weight stipulations give me pause though. I heard that Porter is very well on course to make the weight right now and in good shape, while Broner is also training really hard. Mayweather even sent him Nate Jones to help him train and help with his footwork.

 

[bballchump11]

Porter is a such an athlete

 

[Kurushi]

yeah, I won't be going out that night :yep

This fight is interesting to me because really Porter should beat the shit out of Broner. The weight stipulations give me pause though. I heard that Porter is very well on course to make the weight right now and in good shape, while Broner is also training really hard. Mayweather even sent him Nate Jones to help him train and help with his footwork.

I'm not as sceptical about this catchweight as I am about others because it's not like Broner doesn't have to train hard to hit the weight himself either. Obviously Broner thinks it gives him an advantage otherwise it wouldn't be in place for the fight but it's not like he hasn't fought above that weight before. I hope people give Broner credit if he wins. Who have you got in the Lemieux/N'Dam fight?

 

[tommygun711]

I have no idea tbh but when i play this fight out in my head i can def see porter overpowering him and getting inside.

Its harder for me to see broner outboxing porter on the outside and utilizing his jab. Brook is a better fighter on the outside, stronger than broner and has a better jab.

When porter got close to brook brook would tie him up because he was very strong. I dont think broner will be as successful, and i think brooks power and outfighting ability is a big difference to broner's. Broners cement feet also would be problematic against porter.

I keep seeing the maidana fight all over again. But im not sure how the CW will affect porter.

 

[Floyd_g.o.a.t]

Porter will have problems making the catchweight. Guy is already tight at 147.

I thought so too.

Porter says weight is no problem. He used to be 165 and fights now at 147 easy, they jumped at the chance to fight at the catch weight and they can still rehydrate an extra 10 lbs.

So we will see a well conditioned Shawn Porter, I wish he puts it on AB early.

 

[Floyd_g.o.a.t]

I have no idea tbh but when i play this fight out in my head i can def see porter overpowering him and getting inside.

Its harder for me to see broner outboxing porter on the outside and utilizing his jab. Brook is a better fighter on the outside, stronger than broner and has a better jab.

When porter got close to brook brook would tie him up because he was very strong. I dont think broner will be as successful, and i think brooks power and outfighting ability is a big difference to broner's. Broners cement feet also would be problematic against porter.

I keep seeing the maidana fight all over again. But im not sure how the CW will affect porter.

Broner and Porter have sparred before so they know eachother quite well. From what I've seen, the sparring has only made Broner more confident which makes me think Saturday is going to be interesting. I feel Broner thinks Porter will fall into his game plan and he just might do.

People often get it twisted and try to compare Broner to elite boxers. AB ain't on that level but he's still got skills and can fight well on the outside and times his shots very well. That will cause Porter problems unless he ruffles AB up early and continues that momentum throughout.

The rounds Broner will win, I can see being quite clear. The Porter rounds will be slightly closer.

 

[bballchump11]

I'm not as sceptical about this catchweight as I am about others because it's not like Broner doesn't have to train hard to hit the weight himself either. Obviously Broner thinks it gives him an advantage otherwise it wouldn't be in place for the fight but it's not like he hasn't fought above that weight before. I hope people give Broner credit if he wins. Who have you got in the Lemieux/N'Dam fight?

yeah I got you on that. They'll always be people crying or laughing(if he loses) after a Broner fight.

for Lemieux and N'Dam, that's a really, really good fight. David has improved a lot since his losses and could possibly put on a more competitive Fernando Guerrero type performance. But N'Dam is a really good boxer with good movement and he had enough power to drop Curtis Stevens.

That's tough to call really. I think the old David would have possibly dropped N'Dam early on and then gassed later, but his stamina looked pretty good vs Rosado and he can pressure you much better than Curtis Stevens. I'd pick Lemuiex

 

[Kurushi]

I have no idea tbh but when i play this fight out in my head i can def see porter overpowering him and getting inside.

Its harder for me to see broner outboxing porter on the outside and utilizing his jab. Brook is a better fighter on the outside, stronger than broner and has a better jab.

When porter got close to brook brook would tie him up because he was very strong. I dont think broner will be as successful, and i think brooks power and outfighting ability is a big difference to broner's. Broners cement feet also would be problematic against porter.

I keep seeing the maidana fight all over again. But im not sure how the CW will affect porter.

You're suffering from B.F.S (blueprint flashback syndrome). You're having difficulty imagining Broner not getting Chino'd again. Seriously though, Porter has got that power and it would be a shame if, at the weigh in, it looks like that power has diminished significantly. I disagree that Broner won't tie Porter up though. I definitely think Broner's more cautious since the Maidana loss (I'm pretty sure he said something to this affect immediately after the Molina fight although I could be wrong). If things get hairy I can see Broner clinching a fair bit. Broner does often have cement feet but he's not an immobile fighter. He has fast hands too.

 

[tommygun711]

I feel Broner thinks Porter will fall into his game plan and he just might do.

People often get it twisted and try to compare Broner to elite boxers. AB ain't on that level but he's still got skills and can fight well on the outside and times his shots very well. That will cause Porter problems unless he ruffles AB up early and continues that momentum throughout.

This fight is so dependant on how often porter will hurt broner. I definitely see porter roughing him up early.

Ab has good timing sure and hes got a nice jab with good creative combo punching but i dont really think he will have as much success as brook with the jab and 1-2.

Few fighters can deal with porter's lunge and vicious attack. I think Broner will have to stand his ground at certain points to get porters respect. Like i said broner's cement feet and defensive flaws against unorthodox punches will be his undoing. De leon maidana quintero and taylor all showed that looping punches on the inside can do the job against broner.

 

[~Cellzki~]

gotta pick against AB this time. im going with my gut like i should have did with the maidana fight . Broners matchmaking sucks hes either fighting dudes that hes not ready for or guys that he beats easy. hes not connecting the dots. he was on a good path up until after the Demarco fight when he started weight jumping. after the Maidana loss it seems he was back on the right path after beating taylor and molina now hes overstepping again with Porter. he should be fighting guys in his division. oh well, if AB wins then he's alot better than i thought. AB gives a competitive fight but gets outworked..

 

[tommygun711]

You're suffering from B.F.S (blueprint flashback syndrome). You're having difficulty imagining Broner not getting Chino'd again.

I am actually leaning towards porter for that reason.

Seriously though, Porter has got that power and it would be a shame if, at the weigh in, it looks like that power has diminished significantly. I disagree that Broner won't tie Porter up though. I definitely think Broner's more cautious since the Maidana loss (I'm pretty sure he said something to this affect immediately after the Molina fight although I could be wrong). If things get hairy I can see Broner clinching a fair bit. Broner does often have cement feet but he's not an immobile fighter. He has fast hands too.

Im keeping the CW in mind for sure. Broner stands in the pocket too much and you say hes been more cautious since losing to maidana, but against who? Molina who wasnt shit, taylor who roughed him up and exposed the same flaws, and molina who wasnt very good.

I just think broner wont have as much success clinching/outfighting as brook. Hes not as strong or as skilled and he doesnt have as good of a jab.

 

[Kurushi]

yeah I got you on that. They'll always be people crying or laughing(if he loses) after a Broner fight.

for Lemieux and N'Dam, that's a really, really good fight. David has improved a lot since his losses and could possibly put on a more competitive Fernando Guerrero type performance. But N'Dam is a really good boxer with good movement and he had enough power to drop Curtis Stevens.

That's tough to call really. I think the old David would have possibly dropped N'Dam early on and then gassed later, but his stamina looked pretty good vs Rosado and he can pressure you much better than Curtis Stevens. I'd pick Lemuiex

I'm picking Lemieux too. Maybe even by late stoppage. I think it'll be an impressive win where he'll show evidence of maturity. The following day there'll be threads like "Lemieux vs. GGG?"

 

[bballchump11]

I'm picking Lemieux too. Maybe even by late stoppage. I think it'll be an impressive win where he'll show evidence of maturity. The following day there'll be threads like "Lemieux vs. GGG?"

lol yeah that's pretty dead on actually.

 

[Kurushi]

Im keeping the CW in mind for sure. Broner stands in the pocket too much and you say hes been more cautious since losing to maidana, but against who? Molina who wasnt shit, taylor who roughed him up and exposed the same flaws, and molina who wasnt very good.

I just think broner wont have as much success clinching/outfighting as brook. Hes not as strong or as skilled and he doesnt have as good of a jab.

Some fair points there. Broner won't be as good at neutralising Porter as Brook was. He doesn't have a chocolate brownie either so he won't get Porter's respect as much which makes it more interesting. The Brook/Porter fight was messy for long periods of time though. Porter isn't a particularly creative fighter. He's not that difficult to hit. It's easy to say Molina wasn't shit in hindsight. A lot of people chose him to 'Chino' Broner though before the fight happened. Molina and Taylor might not be great evidence to present as proof of Broner's developments but I also think that people forget about Broner's ability to recuperate in the Maidana fight.