Canelo is he on the decline.?

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Dynamito

Discussion Starter · 21 d ago

By all accounts subpar performance against a huge and brave underdog.

What you guys think looks like he is on the slide.

Or maybe for a foot 5-7 inch guy he is fighting in too high a weight division.

If it was’nt for the Mexican Beef diet he would be a Welterweight.

Never had much variety in his skill set. Bivol retires him, the likes of Benavidez and Morrell most likely will do that as well.

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gumbo2176

· #2 · 21 d ago

Didn't see the fight but did look up the results. Two judges had it 118-109 and one judge had it a shut-out at 120-107. He won going away and with ease going by the scorecards. You can't knock them all out.

No different than almost any fight Floyd Mayweather won in his career with wide UD wins being the norm-----and he's considered "An all-time great".

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Dynamito

Discussion Starter · #3 · 21 d ago

gumbo2176 said:
Didn't see the fight but did look up the results. Two judges had it 118-109 and one judge had it a shut-out at 120-107. He won going away and with ease going by the scorecards. You can't knock them all out.

No different than almost any fight Floyd Mayweather won in his career with wide UD wins being the norm-----and he's considered "An all-time great".

Ryder was competitive through out he did not just turn up to last the distance.

Canelo seems to lost a few steps and got caught a lot more, the reflexes did not look as sharp as they did a few years ago.

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gumbo2176

· #4 · 21 d ago (Edited)

Although Canelo is only 32, which is still in most boxers prime years, he's already had 63 pro bouts and in many of the ones the last few years, he's reached above his size to take on bigger challengers. He's been in the pro ranks since 2005 and that's 18 years of pretty hard labor for a body to go through.

At 5 ft. 7 in. tall, taking on several 6 ft. plus fighters who are naturally bigger men is a pretty tall order, and I think that is what has made him such a popular fighter.

I seriously doubt at this point he could get down to even Super Welterweight without being drained, but if he did, he'd dominate that division is how I see it.

Edited to add this: I finally got to watch the video you posted. Sorry, but I don't see any decline from that video. He chased the guy around the ring, had him bleeding in the 3rd, registered a KD in the 5th with Ryder looking like he didn't want any more, but to his credit continued, had him staggered bad in the 9th but went on to finish the fight on his feet.

Even one of the announcers called it a "Moral Victory" for Ryder just to finish.

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Sweethome_Bama

· #5 · 21 d ago

Canelo rather look mediocre moving up than face his peers at 154 and 160 like the charlos and Andrade. Lol

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steviebruno

· #6 · 21 d ago

He fightin' Benavidez yet or no?

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Cableaddict

· #7 · 21 d ago

gumbo2176 said:
Didn't see the fight but did look up the results. Two judges had it 118-109 and one judge had it a shut-out at 120-107. He won going away and with ease going by the scorecards. You can't knock them all out.

No different than almost any fight Floyd Mayweather won in his career with wide UD wins being the norm-----and he's considered "An all-time great".

Well then you should probably watch the fight.

Canelo definitelly won, but the cards were a disgrace, and in insult to Ryder, who IMO clearly won 4 rounds.

As for the question of Canelo's decline, it's hard to say. His defense didn't look crisp at all, with a shocking lack of head slips. However, I think Canelo may have decided to just plow forward, as he desperately wanted a KO in front of his home crowd, he knew how tough Ryder is, and he knew Ryder doesn't have 1-punch KO power.

Hard to say.

One thing that really bugged me was that Canelo didn't throw nearly enough combinations. It almost looked like ring rust.

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Philly Shell

· #8 · 20 d ago

Ryder is extremely durable. As he proved yet again. Hasn't been stopped for 8 years.

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