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On Friday evening, February 08th, Guillermo Rigondeaux's managers reached a partial agreement on the anticipated super bantamweight unification between Rigondeaux and "Filipino Flash" Nonito Donaire.

Caribe Promotions CEO Boris Arencibia, co-promoter of Rigondeaux, says the boxer signed (on Friday) the contract for the fight against Donaire. Nevertheless, there were details that could not be concluded on Friday and Arencibia hopes to conclude them this Saturday. And they are confident of defeating Nonito.

The fight is scheduled to take place on April 13th at either the Home Depot Center in California, Texas or New York City. For a little over 3 weeks, Rigondeaux has been working hard at a fast pace with his new trainer, Cuban coach Pedro Luis Díaz.

There is a legal dispute between Caribe and Top Rank, related to the promotional contract of Rigondeaux. Arencibia explains the latest details.

"We had to negotiate with Top Rank from another angle," said Boris Arencibia. "For the time being we have come to a partial agreement on this fight, after several hours in the office of our lawyer. We could reach [a full] agreement - but it won't be until Saturday when we are able to confirm that the fight is a fact. In any case, the only important thing for us to be ready to enjoy the victory of one of the best fighters that we have seen in this era of prizefighting."

"Rigondeaux has to be fully prepared and focused for this fight. The distractions that were generated by the negotiations to make the fight, they were overcome to a great extent, and we are sure that without this extra pressure and the stress that the [legal dispute] produced - Rigondeaux will return to training with more motivation because these are the kind of fights which made him decide to enter prizefighting."

"Rigondeaux will show all of his potential in this fight, and he will be ready to knock Nonito Donaire out. I can confirm one thing, that Rigondeaux is a monster and Nonito has never faced any fighter with the skills of the 'Jackal.' We know about Nonito's quality, and that's why we respect his level as a champion. But Rigondeaux is also a champion, and he is preparing to offer the fans an exciting fight in which two of the most electrifying fighters at 122 pounds will collide."

 

[Barlivia]

Who are these guys thought gary hyde was managing rigo?

 

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Who are these guys thought gary hyde was managing rigo?

Caribe Promotions CEO Boris Arencibia, co-promoter of Rigondeaux

:good

 

[Boxed Ears]

I'm interested in Donaire versus any of Rigo, Mares, Moreno, the winner of Mijares/Terrazas even. He's got a handful of good fights at this weight to look at.

 

[Lunny]

I'm interested in Donaire versus any of Rigo, Mares, Moreno, the winner of Mijares/Terrazas even. He's got a handful of good fights at this weight to look at.

How do you see Donaire-Rigo going should they meet?

 

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I really want to do a massive technical break down on why I'd pick Rigo but I know whatever I say the go to argument would be "Who has he proved that against he just fights bums waaaaaah waaaaaah"

 

[Lunny]

I really want to do a massive technical break down on why I'd pick Rigo but I know whatever I say the go to argument would be "Who has he proved that against he just fights bums waaaaaah waaaaaah"

Do it.

 

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Do it.

Okay:

Well, don't get me wrong. Donaire is a fantastic fighter and I have him number 2 P4P. He has a brilliant resume and fantastic abilities, when he wants to use it.

Donaire's style is one that thrives in exchanges and when the fight is being brought to him, it's when he looks at his best (Arce) and why I think he'd KO Mares within 6 or 7 rounds. When you take that away from him though, and fighters act defensively, he doesn't look nearly as good. Narvaez gave him some problems early on and that giant guy was able to outland him while in defensive mode. He lands at his best when fighters give him openings by coming forwards but when he has to find openings for himself, he struggles.

Against Nishioka I was very impressed with how he set up the trap for that right hand. People have tried to use the fact Nishioka is a solid defensive fighter as a reason Donaire wouldn't have a problem with Rigo, but really, there is no comparison. The problem with Nishioka has always been that he doesn't throw counter punches. He waits till the opponent finishes throwing a combo then fires back with his own shots, so really it isn't much of a comparison.

Donaire loves to please the crowd. He's just got that in him. If the opponent is refusing to go to war with him he gets frustrated and reckless, leaping in with wide shots completely exposing himself. Put this thought on hold for a second. I understand Rigo has few professional fights, but the guy has over 300 fights as an amateur against the best amateurs in the world. You think he doesn't know how to spot these signs of frustration and capitalise on them? If (and when) Donaire starts jumping in with wild shots trying to land a monster, you can bet Rigo will be stepping out of range and moving his head, whilst doing what nishioka can't do and countering between the shots. People may point out that Marroquin wobbled him with two left hooks. One of them was when Rigo was trying to showboat (which he won't do against Donaire, I'd expect) and the other was really more of a balance issue combined with Rigo going into a mode where he was cruising to a win (which he can't afford to do against Donaire.)

From all the footage I've seen of an amateur Rigo, and all his professional fights I have seen (Granted he hasn't fought the best competition), he is by far one of the best at timing the straight left hand down the middle when an opponent telegraphs the shot he is about to throw. One point where this may not work against Donaire is the fact Rigo can be wild with these and if Donaire draws one out he may land with a sweet left hook.

I also just want to shoot a few theories people have suggested for what Donaire can do to win:

1) Jab: Firstly, Donaire doesn't really have that impressive a jab, okay? Yes he can use it to try and set up his power shots and massive left hooks, but allow me to bring your attention to one of my favourite defensive moves by Rigo. His front forearm block. The majority of time Rigo is in stance, his right hand arm is bent at the elbow out in front of him. Whenever a fighter throws the jab, it lands on the right forearm as he uses it well to block. What this does though is keep him in a position where, if he's being defensively minded, he is in the perfect stance to move out of any attempted follow up shots and also keeps him in the perfect range where he can step in with a counter if he wants to.

2) Use angles and make Rigo come to him: If the opponent won't make noise, there will be no noise. Rigondeaux would not push the action. If Donaire tries to use this sort of gameplan we can expect a boring fight filled with posturing, feigning and the occasional punch thrown here or there. This gameplan will not work.

Donaire can come out and try to blast Rigo out and crack his "glass jaw" (which isn't glass, just a bit shaky) but really all he'll do is get countered and hit thin air.

Now, I've no doubt missed a lot of what I want to say, it's 1am and my brain isn't working. Allow me to cover some keys to victories for each fighter.

Donaire:

Work the body when you get in close and in clinches.

Don't throw that stupid as fuck right hand where you step to the side and drop your guard completely, you're so open for a left to the body and if Rigo KO's you during the fight, it'll be because of that. Calling it now.

Don't give up on the jab just because it doesn't land on the target. It'll keep him defensive with that forearm and allow you to think more in the ring.

If you're going to land your left hook, it'll be countering the lazy jab Rigo occasionally throws so keep your eyes open for that shot

Rigondeaux

Don't showboat

Don't get lazy and think you're cruising to a victory

Stay alert

Time the left everytime Donaire loads up on a massive left hook (A poster on ESB had a nice comparison with this punch comparing it to the way Martinez constantly countered Macklins left hook)


Really, I don't know who will win. I think Rigo has the tools to win it, but so does Donaire. I think we're going to learn a lot about both guys from this fight, but these are the points standing out in my mind when I think about it. I just don't see how Donaire is going to be able to get a sustained attack going, and as the fight goes on I see him getting more and more frustrated and giving Rigondeaux more and more openings.

Guillermo Rigondeaux UD Nonito Donaire in a close fight ----- 116-112

(Sorry if this post is awful to read, I'm really very tired.)

 

[Lunny]

Okay:

Well, don't get me wrong. Donaire is a fantastic fighter and I have him number 2 P4P. He has a brilliant resume and fantastic abilities, when he wants to use it.

Donaire's style is one that thrives in exchanges and when the fight is being brought to him, it's when he looks at his best (Arce) and why I think he'd KO Mares within 6 or 7 rounds. When you take that away from him though, and fighters act defensively, he doesn't look nearly as good. Narvaez gave him some problems early on and that giant guy was able to outland him while in defensive mode. He lands at his best when fighters give him openings by coming forwards but when he has to find openings for himself, he struggles.

Against Nishioka I was very impressed with how he set up the trap for that right hand. People have tried to use the fact Nishioka is a solid defensive fighter as a reason Donaire wouldn't have a problem with Rigo, but really, there is no comparison. The problem with Nishioka has always been that he doesn't throw counter punches. He waits till the opponent finishes throwing a combo then fires back with his own shots, so really it isn't much of a comparison.

Donaire loves to please the crowd. He's just got that in him. If the opponent is refusing to go to war with him he gets frustrated and reckless, leaping in with wide shots completely exposing himself. Put this thought on hold for a second. I understand Rigo has few professional fights, but the guy has over 300 fights as an amateur against the best amateurs in the world. You think he doesn't know how to spot these signs of frustration and capitalise on them? If (and when) Donaire starts jumping in with wild shots trying to land a monster, you can bet Rigo will be stepping out of range and moving his head, whilst doing what nishioka can't do and countering between the shots. People may point out that Marroquin wobbled him with two left hooks. One of them was when Rigo was trying to showboat (which he won't do against Donaire, I'd expect) and the other was really more of a balance issue combined with Rigo going into a mode where he was cruising to a win (which he can't afford to do against Donaire.)

From all the footage I've seen of an amateur Rigo, and all his professional fights I have seen (Granted he hasn't fought the best competition), he is by far one of the best at timing the straight left hand down the middle when an opponent telegraphs the shot he is about to throw. One point where this may not work against Donaire is the fact Rigo can be wild with these and if Donaire draws one out he may land with a sweet left hook.

I also just want to shoot a few theories people have suggested for what Donaire can do to win:

1) Jab: Firstly, Donaire doesn't really have that impressive a jab, okay? Yes he can use it to try and set up his power shots and massive left hooks, but allow me to bring your attention to one of my favourite defensive moves by Rigo. His front forearm block. The majority of time Rigo is in stance, his right hand arm is bent at the elbow out in front of him. Whenever a fighter throws the jab, it lands on the right forearm as he uses it well to block. What this does though is keep him in a position where, if he's being defensively minded, he is in the perfect stance to move out of any attempted follow up shots and also keeps him in the perfect range where he can step in with a counter if he wants to.

2) Use angles and make Rigo come to him: If the opponent won't make noise, there will be no noise. Rigondeaux would not push the action. If Donaire tries to use this sort of gameplan we can expect a boring fight filled with posturing, feigning and the occasional punch thrown here or there. This gameplan will not work.

Donaire can come out and try to blast Rigo out and crack his "glass jaw" (which isn't glass, just a bit shaky) but really all he'll do is get countered and hit thin air.

Now, I've no doubt missed a lot of what I want to say, it's 1am and my brain isn't working. Allow me to cover some keys to victories for each fighter.

Donaire:

Work the body when you get in close and in clinches.

Don't throw that stupid as fuck right hand where you step to the side and drop your guard completely, you're so open for a left to the body and if Rigo KO's you during the fight, it'll be because of that. Calling it now.

Don't give up on the jab just because it doesn't land on the target. It'll keep him defensive with that forearm and allow you to think more in the ring.

If you're going to land your left hook, it'll be countering the lazy jab Rigo occasionally throws so keep your eyes open for that shot

Rigondeaux

Don't showboat

Don't get lazy and think you're cruising to a victory

Stay alert

Time the left everytime Donaire loads up on a massive left hook (A poster on ESB had a nice comparison with this punch comparing it to the way Martinez constantly countered Macklins left hook)


Really, I don't know who will win. I think Rigo has the tools to win it, but so does Donaire. I think we're going to learn a lot about both guys from this fight, but these are the points standing out in my mind when I think about it. I just don't see how Donaire is going to be able to get a sustained attack going, and as the fight goes on I see him getting more and more frustrated and giving Rigondeaux more and more openings.

Guillermo Rigondeaux UD Nonito Donaire in a close fight ----- 116-112

(Sorry if this post is awful to read, I'm really very tired.)

Qualityyy post, a lot of good points. Too tired to read it in depth. Looking forward to reading it properly tomorrow though, you really went into it!

Thanks, Chacal, you are a nice guy.

 

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Qualityyy post, a lot of good points. Too tired to read it in depth. Looking forward to reading it properly tomorrow though, you really went into it!

Thanks, Chacal, you are a nice guy.

Cheers, want to see my treehouse?

 

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Boris Arencibia, CEO of Caribe Promotions and co-promoter to Guillermo "The Jackal" Rigondeaux, has advised BoxingScene.com that all of the outstanding issues have been ironed out, and a deal for a super bantamweight unification with Nonito Donaire has been finalized for April 13th on HBO. The venue has yet to be determined, with California, Texas and New York City in the running.

Caribe and Rigondeaux's other co-promoter, Top Rank, were involved in a legal dispute over the Cuban star's promotional contract. The majority of the issues were resolved on Friday, and earlier today the rest of the outstanding problems were worked out.

"We are very happy to communicate that all of the details that remained on Friday were finally resolved. Caribe Promotions, along with Top Rank, are convinced the career of Rigondeaux will now travel in the best direction to accomplish his goals," said Arencibia.

"Earlier today, Rigondeaux was the center of attention along with the Mayor of the Miami City. We are determined to turn Rigondeaux into the principal representative of Cuban sports in Miami, and these type of events are part of our overall goal to position the boxer closer to the community."

"After obtaining the agreement to finalize the fight, where both Donaire and Rigondeaux will place their titles on the line, we wanted to invite the entire Cuban community living in the United States to be present at this event with Cuban flags in their hands in a display of support for one of the most talented Cuban fighters of all time."

"We at Caribe Promotions want nothing but the best for Rigondeaux and we never tried to obstruct his career, and the finalization of this fight is an example of that. Now the main objective is to have Rigondeaux in the best shape possible for this fight, which is one of most important that any Cuban boxer has been involved in. We are going to work thoroughly to make sure Rigondeaux has all of the necessary conditions to have the best training camp of his career."



LET'S GET IT ON

 

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Qualityyy post, a lot of good points. Too tired to read it in depth. Looking forward to reading it properly tomorrow though, you really went into it!

Thanks, Chacal, you are a nice guy.

Remember to give it a shufty today

 

[Post Box]

Okay:

Well, don't get me wrong. Donaire is a fantastic fighter and I have him number 2 P4P. He has a brilliant resume and fantastic abilities, when he wants to use it.

Donaire's style is one that thrives in exchanges and when the fight is being brought to him, it's when he looks at his best (Arce) and why I think he'd KO Mares within 6 or 7 rounds. When you take that away from him though, and fighters act defensively, he doesn't look nearly as good. Narvaez gave him some problems early on and that giant guy was able to outland him while in defensive mode. He lands at his best when fighters give him openings by coming forwards but when he has to find openings for himself, he struggles.

Against Nishioka I was very impressed with how he set up the trap for that right hand. People have tried to use the fact Nishioka is a solid defensive fighter as a reason Donaire wouldn't have a problem with Rigo, but really, there is no comparison. The problem with Nishioka has always been that he doesn't throw counter punches. He waits till the opponent finishes throwing a combo then fires back with his own shots, so really it isn't much of a comparison.

Donaire loves to please the crowd. He's just got that in him. If the opponent is refusing to go to war with him he gets frustrated and reckless, leaping in with wide shots completely exposing himself. Put this thought on hold for a second. I understand Rigo has few professional fights, but the guy has over 300 fights as an amateur against the best amateurs in the world. You think he doesn't know how to spot these signs of frustration and capitalise on them? If (and when) Donaire starts jumping in with wild shots trying to land a monster, you can bet Rigo will be stepping out of range and moving his head, whilst doing what nishioka can't do and countering between the shots. People may point out that Marroquin wobbled him with two left hooks. One of them was when Rigo was trying to showboat (which he won't do against Donaire, I'd expect) and the other was really more of a balance issue combined with Rigo going into a mode where he was cruising to a win (which he can't afford to do against Donaire.)

From all the footage I've seen of an amateur Rigo, and all his professional fights I have seen (Granted he hasn't fought the best competition), he is by far one of the best at timing the straight left hand down the middle when an opponent telegraphs the shot he is about to throw. One point where this may not work against Donaire is the fact Rigo can be wild with these and if Donaire draws one out he may land with a sweet left hook.

I also just want to shoot a few theories people have suggested for what Donaire can do to win:

1) Jab: Firstly, Donaire doesn't really have that impressive a jab, okay? Yes he can use it to try and set up his power shots and massive left hooks, but allow me to bring your attention to one of my favourite defensive moves by Rigo. His front forearm block. The majority of time Rigo is in stance, his right hand arm is bent at the elbow out in front of him. Whenever a fighter throws the jab, it lands on the right forearm as he uses it well to block. What this does though is keep him in a position where, if he's being defensively minded, he is in the perfect stance to move out of any attempted follow up shots and also keeps him in the perfect range where he can step in with a counter if he wants to.

2) Use angles and make Rigo come to him: If the opponent won't make noise, there will be no noise. Rigondeaux would not push the action. If Donaire tries to use this sort of gameplan we can expect a boring fight filled with posturing, feigning and the occasional punch thrown here or there. This gameplan will not work.

Donaire can come out and try to blast Rigo out and crack his "glass jaw" (which isn't glass, just a bit shaky) but really all he'll do is get countered and hit thin air.

Now, I've no doubt missed a lot of what I want to say, it's 1am and my brain isn't working. Allow me to cover some keys to victories for each fighter.

Donaire:

Work the body when you get in close and in clinches.

Don't throw that stupid as fuck right hand where you step to the side and drop your guard completely, you're so open for a left to the body and if Rigo KO's you during the fight, it'll be because of that. Calling it now.

Don't give up on the jab just because it doesn't land on the target. It'll keep him defensive with that forearm and allow you to think more in the ring.

If you're going to land your left hook, it'll be countering the lazy jab Rigo occasionally throws so keep your eyes open for that shot

Rigondeaux

Don't showboat

Don't get lazy and think you're cruising to a victory

Stay alert

Time the left everytime Donaire loads up on a massive left hook (A poster on ESB had a nice comparison with this punch comparing it to the way Martinez constantly countered Macklins left hook)


Really, I don't know who will win. I think Rigo has the tools to win it, but so does Donaire. I think we're going to learn a lot about both guys from this fight, but these are the points standing out in my mind when I think about it. I just don't see how Donaire is going to be able to get a sustained attack going, and as the fight goes on I see him getting more and more frustrated and giving Rigondeaux more and more openings.

Guillermo Rigondeaux UD Nonito Donaire in a close fight ----- 116-112

(Sorry if this post is awful to read, I'm really very tired.)

tl;dr

 

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tl;dr

Useless.

 

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@Lunny

 

[Lunny]

Donaire loves to please the crowd. He's just got that in him. If the opponent is refusing to go to war with him he gets frustrated and reckless, leaping in with wide shots completely exposing himself. Put this thought on hold for a second. I understand Rigo has few professional fights, but the guy has over 300 fights as an amateur against the best amateurs in the world. You think he doesn't know how to spot these signs of frustration and capitalise on them? If (and when) Donaire starts jumping in with wild shots trying to land a monster, you can bet Rigo will be stepping out of range and moving his head, whilst doing what nishioka can't do and countering between the shots. People may point out that Marroquin wobbled him with two left hooks. One of them was when Rigo was trying to showboat (which he won't do against Donaire, I'd expect) and the other was really more of a balance issue combined with Rigo going into a mode where he was cruising to a win (which he can't afford to do against Donaire.)

This is my one big worry about Donaire really. If he comes in all in love with his power thinking he's going to destroy his opponent like we've seen him a couple of times. It's when he's going for the knock out that he looks least likely to get it . I think he's learned from his mistakes in past fights and not go in like that though. I think he'll have more respect for Rigo than that.

2) Use angles and make Rigo come to him: If the opponent won't make noise, there will be no noise. Rigondeaux would not push the action. If Donaire tries to use this sort of gameplan we can expect a boring fight filled with posturing, feigning and the occasional punch thrown here or there. This gameplan will not work.

It might lead to a boring fight but that doesn't mean it won't work. I could see it being a boring fight that Donaire wins.

Donaire:

Work the body when you get in close and in clinches.

Don't throw that stupid as fuck right hand where you step to the side and drop your guard completely, you're so open for a left to the body and if Rigo KO's you during the fight, it'll be because of that. Calling it now.

Don't give up on the jab just because it doesn't land on the target. It'll keep him defensive with that forearm and allow you to think more in the ring.

If you're going to land your left hook, it'll be countering the lazy jab Rigo occasionally throws so keep your eyes open for that shot

Rigondeaux

Don't showboat

Don't get lazy and think you're cruising to a victory

Stay alert

Time the left everytime Donaire loads up on a massive left hook (A poster on ESB had a nice comparison with this punch comparing it to the way Martinez constantly countered Macklins left hook)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

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This is my one big worry about Donaire really. If he comes in all in love with his power thinking he's going to destroy his opponent like we've seen him a couple of times. It's when he's going for the knock out that he looks least likely to get it . I think he's learned from his mistakes in past fights and not go in like that though. I think he'll have more respect for Rigo than that.

It might lead to a boring fight but that doesn't mean it won't work. I could see it being a boring fight that Donaire wins.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

First point you quoted ties in with the second, doesn't it. You think when the crowd start booing he won't try to open up and make it exciting like he's done in the past?

 

[Bajingo]

I'll just leave this here. Fuck boxing.

 

[Bryn]

Fuck sake.

 

[Wallet]

Nonito Donaire Jr. ‏@filipinoflash

And just to let you know, I never required my opponents to do VADA. Rigo CALLED me out AND agreed to do VADA testing on HIS OWN.

It was also in negotiations. So why back out when you gave your word as a MAN?

:think