How long before people start referring to Benn as the 'Dark Steroider?'
Chris Eubank Jr vs Conor Benn - CANCELLED
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He is being ridiculed in numerous ways. The fact the product detected in his system was a female fertility pill has not helped. Numerous jokes and memes about Conor trying to get pregnant.How long before people start referring to Benn as the 'Dark Steroider?'
A few brown envelopes might make the B sample disappear. But the damage to his reputation is going to last.
The Benn 'B' sample will likely be filed away in the same place as the still yet to see the light of day, Whyte 'B' sample.
If Benn was an Olympic athlete, in fact probably anything other than a boxer, he would already be under suspension pending the result of the B sample.
Disgracefully, it sounds like Hearn and Sauerland are going to proceed with this fight despite the BBBofC washing their hands of it.
Disgracefully, it sounds like Hearn and Sauerland are going to proceed with this fight despite the BBBofC washing their hands of it.
Just heard the start time for the press conference has been set back. Perhaps there's hope commonsense will prevail yet but I doubt it. More likely the grubby promoters are scurrying around trying to get someone like the Luxembourg Boxing Federation to sanction the fight.
In other news both former Benn opponents Chris Algieri and Chris Van Heerden have expressed anger at Benns test results.
Algieri states there were rumour concerning Benn when he fought him.
Van Heerden said he was surprised that Benn as able to do to him what far superior fighters in Errol Spence and Jaron Ennis couldnt. And that there had been Zero pre-fight testing just a simple post fight urine test.
And on top we have plenty of mudslinging on social media.
There are people bringing rumours about Nigel Benn being on the juice when he was fighting. ( From what I recall some suspicions were thrown around after the Gerald Mcclellan fight mainly by people connected to Mcclellan)
Others including the boxer Sunny Edwards are throwing shade on Tony Simms and his entire stable.
As for legacy fight, all this fight has done is tarnish the Benn name.
Algieri states there were rumour concerning Benn when he fought him.
Van Heerden said he was surprised that Benn as able to do to him what far superior fighters in Errol Spence and Jaron Ennis couldnt. And that there had been Zero pre-fight testing just a simple post fight urine test.
And on top we have plenty of mudslinging on social media.
There are people bringing rumours about Nigel Benn being on the juice when he was fighting. ( From what I recall some suspicions were thrown around after the Gerald Mcclellan fight mainly by people connected to Mcclellan)
Others including the boxer Sunny Edwards are throwing shade on Tony Simms and his entire stable.
As for legacy fight, all this fight has done is tarnish the Benn name.
I've watched a number of Hearn interviews since this story broke and unsurprisingly he's consistently declined any invitation to criticise or condemn his fighter.
What also seems pretty clear is that;
1. He's known about this failed test for weeks
2. Whilst he prefers the BBBC to sanction the fight if they don't he'll look elsewhere in order to preserve the show on Saturday
3. If the DM didn't print the story he wouldn't have said a word about it to anyone
The BBBC seem to be getting credit now for the statement they released saying that they "prohibit" the fight but what isn't clear is;
1. How long did the BBBC know about this? If they knew weeks ago too then they've only issued a statement now and "prohibited" it because the DM went to print, therefore they're only looking after their own reputation and not Eubank Jr's health
2. If it becomes clear to the BBBC that Matchroom will seek sanction elsewhere in the absence of BBBC support, will they just sanction it themselves rather than lose their fee?
3. Did Sr also know about this weeks ago and is it this that had him desperate for his son not to fight?
I'm no doctor but I can't think of any legitimate reason a male fighter would have traces of a female contraceptive in his system. I have read, though, that this specific drug found in him can be used as a masking agent and that the low amounts found indicate that one was nearing the end of the cycling off phase.
The fight can't go on. It was borderline OK as it was, now Benn appears to have been caught cheating it absolutely cannot proceed.
What also seems pretty clear is that;
1. He's known about this failed test for weeks
2. Whilst he prefers the BBBC to sanction the fight if they don't he'll look elsewhere in order to preserve the show on Saturday
3. If the DM didn't print the story he wouldn't have said a word about it to anyone
The BBBC seem to be getting credit now for the statement they released saying that they "prohibit" the fight but what isn't clear is;
1. How long did the BBBC know about this? If they knew weeks ago too then they've only issued a statement now and "prohibited" it because the DM went to print, therefore they're only looking after their own reputation and not Eubank Jr's health
2. If it becomes clear to the BBBC that Matchroom will seek sanction elsewhere in the absence of BBBC support, will they just sanction it themselves rather than lose their fee?
3. Did Sr also know about this weeks ago and is it this that had him desperate for his son not to fight?
I'm no doctor but I can't think of any legitimate reason a male fighter would have traces of a female contraceptive in his system. I have read, though, that this specific drug found in him can be used as a masking agent and that the low amounts found indicate that one was nearing the end of the cycling off phase.
The fight can't go on. It was borderline OK as it was, now Benn appears to have been caught cheating it absolutely cannot proceed.
Checking the DAZN website just now I see this fight is no longer on the boxing schedule. Katie Taylor on Oct 29 is next up as far as I can see
Kalle Sauerland and Eddie Hearn issue a joint statement, no questions just a brief statement confirming that this Saturday's "Born Rivals" show is to be rescheduled
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So it could well be that the British Board were not informed of VADA results by the promoters.
(2) From what I have read from multiple sources Matchroom left it too late to get another Board like Luxembourg to step in. Three days was not enough time for a rival board to get their systems, protocols, and legal obligations in place.
Instead only option left was to try and intimidate the board by seeking to get a legal injuction from the court to prevent the board from withdrawing their sanction for the fight. I presume the arguments were based on legal precedents the board allowing Whyte fight to take place in similar circumstances. And secondly that Conor Benn had passed the tests carried by the Boards authorised organisation UKAD. High court would have most likely rejected the legal injuction. I think all the British Boards lawyers would have had to do was present Eddie Hearns recorded video statements. When BJ saunders (who was at the time promoted by Warren tested positive) tested positive prior to the Demetrius Andrade fight. He stated "VADA is the best testing organisation in the world and whats the point of having testing if you let the fighter fight anyway.
(3) It is possible that Eubank snr did know about this. He even threatned legal action to stop the fight taking place. And said if his son did not listen he would do what he could to prevent the fight taking place.
If it was Chris Eubank Snr who leaked the story to the Daily Mail that is a very smooth move and morally correct one.
And finally for those who dont know a B sample test is only carried out on the wishes of the accused athlete. If they dispute the result of the A sample and claim innocence they have the legal right to test have the B sample tested.
Kind of telling that Hearn and Conor Benns team in the weeks since he tested positive never requested the B sample be tested. And instead tried to sweep everything under the carpet.
(1) He tested positive on the more advanced VADA test. The BBBOC uses UKAD he tested negative in their tests. VADA has been hired by the promoters they are only obliged to present their results to the promoters. Whilst UKAD would be legally obliged to inform the BBBOC who themselves would inform the promoters.I've watched a number of Hearn interviews since this story broke and unsurprisingly he's consistently declined any invitation to criticise or condemn his fighter.
What also seems pretty clear is that;
1. He's known about this failed test for weeks
2. Whilst he prefers the BBBC to sanction the fight if they don't he'll look elsewhere in order to preserve the show on Saturday
3. If the DM didn't print the story he wouldn't have said a word about it to anyone
The BBBC seem to be getting credit now for the statement they released saying that they "prohibit" the fight but what isn't clear is;
1. How long did the BBBC know about this? If they knew weeks ago too then they've only issued a statement now and "prohibited" it because the DM went to print, therefore they're only looking after their own reputation and not Eubank Jr's health
2. If it becomes clear to the BBBC that Matchroom will seek sanction elsewhere in the absence of BBBC support, will they just sanction it themselves rather than lose their fee?
3. Did Sr also know about this weeks ago and is it this that had him desperate for his son not to fight?
I'm no doctor but I can't think of any legitimate reason a male fighter would have traces of a female contraceptive in his system. I have read, though, that this specific drug found in him can be used as a masking agent and that the low amounts found indicate that one was nearing the end of the cycling off phase.
The fight can't go on. It was borderline OK as it was, now Benn appears to have been caught cheating it absolutely cannot proceed.
So it could well be that the British Board were not informed of VADA results by the promoters.
(2) From what I have read from multiple sources Matchroom left it too late to get another Board like Luxembourg to step in. Three days was not enough time for a rival board to get their systems, protocols, and legal obligations in place.
Instead only option left was to try and intimidate the board by seeking to get a legal injuction from the court to prevent the board from withdrawing their sanction for the fight. I presume the arguments were based on legal precedents the board allowing Whyte fight to take place in similar circumstances. And secondly that Conor Benn had passed the tests carried by the Boards authorised organisation UKAD. High court would have most likely rejected the legal injuction. I think all the British Boards lawyers would have had to do was present Eddie Hearns recorded video statements. When BJ saunders (who was at the time promoted by Warren tested positive) tested positive prior to the Demetrius Andrade fight. He stated "VADA is the best testing organisation in the world and whats the point of having testing if you let the fighter fight anyway.
(3) It is possible that Eubank snr did know about this. He even threatned legal action to stop the fight taking place. And said if his son did not listen he would do what he could to prevent the fight taking place.
If it was Chris Eubank Snr who leaked the story to the Daily Mail that is a very smooth move and morally correct one.
And finally for those who dont know a B sample test is only carried out on the wishes of the accused athlete. If they dispute the result of the A sample and claim innocence they have the legal right to test have the B sample tested.
Kind of telling that Hearn and Conor Benns team in the weeks since he tested positive never requested the B sample be tested. And instead tried to sweep everything under the carpet.
Just out of
(1) VADA has been hired by the promoters they are only obliged to present their results to the promoters. .......
And finally for those who dont know a B sample test is only carried out on the wishes of the accused athlete. If they dispute the result of the A sample and claim innocence they have the legal right to test have the B sample tested.
Are you saying that VADA is not obligated to tell the athlete who failed the test?
If so, then all the promotor has to do is secretly tell the athlete, wait a few weeks for the drugs to clear his system, and THEN pretend to tell him (and the public.)
- Then the athlete pretends to be shocked & outraged, and asks for a B sample.
They would tell the promoters and representatives of the athlete in questionAre you saying that VADA is not obligated to tell the athlete who failed the test?
If so, then all the promotor has to do is secretly tell the athlete, wait a few weeks for the drugs to clear his system, and THEN pretend to tell him (and the public.)
- Then the athlete pretends to be shocked & outraged, and asks for a B sample.
What I am saying is since VADA was not hired by the BBBOC ( The British Boxing Board Of Control) itself. They are not required to inform them of the results. The official testing hired by the British Board was UKAD the UK anti-doping association who would be directly required to answer the board.
A and B sample are the original sample of blood divided into two different test tubes.... The results would only be different if the contamination had taken place during the process of storage or via the equipment. In vast majority of cases the results from A and B samples have always been the same. In doping cases.
So no an athlete could not blag it by asking for new withdrawal of blood from his body to be tested.several weeks later.
The original sample of blood is divided and labelled sample A and B and stored in two seperate containers.
No matter how hard Hearn and Sauerland tried to deliver one, boxing was finally spared a black eye it couldn't afford.
Would Eddie Hearns wants Conor Benn sent to prison???
Conor is like a gift for the Trolls. He might suffer a mental breakdown. After a few weeks of this on social media.
He will probably be haunted by this for the rest of his career.
He wanted to be super famous well be careful what you wish for I suppose.
Any predictions on how far Benn will go in his career now.?
Social media can be cruel but who can Benn blame other than himself. You cheat, you take the consequences if you get caught.
Those interviews in which Hearn contradicts himself are coming back to haunt him. It's easy to play the righteous one. Until your stance impacts your bank balance that is.
Apparently I got the first part of my above post wrong and I was misinformed. Going by the paragraph below the British Boxing Board would have been informed by VADA same as everyone else involved.They would tell the promoters and representatives of the athlete in question
What I am saying is since VADA was not hired by the BBBOC ( The British Boxing Board Of Control) itself. They are not required to inform them of the results. The official testing hired by the British Board was UKAD the UK anti-doping association who would be directly required to answer the board.
A and B sample are the original sample of blood divided into two different test tubes.... The results would only be different if the contamination had taken place during the process of storage or via the equipment. In vast majority of cases the results from A and B samples have always been the same. In doping cases.
So no an athlete could not blag it by asking for new withdrawal of blood from his body to be tested.several weeks later.
The original sample of blood is divided and labelled sample A and B and stored in two seperate containers.
As in the Olympic program, an agreement to participate will require fighters to officially inform us of their daily whereabouts, so that they can be tested per the program. Athletes will agree that all results are immediately released to the appropriate adjudicating commission overseeing their upcoming contest
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