[Earl-Hickey]

When the Khan fight was on the other week, one of my friends who is a "casual" fan watched it, and after the fight I was talking to him about what he thought of Khan etc. My buddy watches pretty much all boxing he can, he has boxnation etc. But he doesn't do the whole forum thing, and doesn't check boxing news sites etc.

He said of Khan: "I don't think he's a top level fighter but he's entertaining and wants to fight the best, I like him"

This seems to be pretty much the consensus among casuals regarding Khan, and he's always got a lot of support when he fights over here.

But obviously online it's a whole different story, and Khan is one of the most hated guys in boxing.

One thing strikes me is that certain websites (I'm looking at boxingscene here) seem like they are almost on the wind up with regards to guys like Khan. Almost every day, they will post an "article" about an interview he gave somewhere, and the title will be something like "Amir Khan, I think i'm the best at 140" or something to that effect, when in reality that line has been really taken out of context. As soon as I see these headlines I can predict the responses right away, and sure enough clicking the link takes you to a sea of "glass jaw" posts. Most of the time too, you can see that nobody even read the interview, they just saw the title and started raging.

But I think boxingscene does it to drive traffic, they know people like hating on Khan, so why not give them the ammunition and up the site traffic?

The one thing about CHB, and I will say in all seriousness as much as we want it to be busy, having a small base of guys actually keeps it pretty sensible, and the articles are not of the biased, antagonistic kind.

 

[kingkodi]

Yeah true. I like this site because it's generally serious boxing talk rather than boxing as an excuse to troll / abuse others. Those Scott Gilfoid articles on Boxingnews24 are the same sort of thing. Drive traffic by posting contentious articles - basically trolling. I hadn't been on esb for some time and the other day I thought I'd take a look. I only read a few posts between some Ironsense twat and USAROB and I nearly lost the will to live.

 

[nufc_jay]

It's taught me about glass jaws and the term "floored"

 

[Earl-Hickey]

It's taught me about glass jaws and the term "floored"

Floored is when you get hurt by a shot, correct?

 

[nufc_jay]

correct

 

[Roe]

Good post again, Earl.

I tend to agree and I guess this kind of thing is the reason that people involved in boxing (boxers, promoters, pundits etc) don't generally like forums.

The reason I want this site to get busier though is because I think there are enough sensible boxing fans out there that can come here and make the site active and quality.

If the forum here ever gets like ESB or boxing scene then I'd probably leave here tbh.

 

[Roe]

Ideally I'd like us to have around 1,000 active members, where the majority of threads are based around relevant news stories and sensible opinion. Kind of like we have now only with more posters. We'll get there one day.

But that's just my view and the reason this is a forum is so everyone gets to share theirs :good

 

[Roe]

One of the problems is that there are quite a few smaller forums like this that have many good posters and people involved (ring news 24 etc). If only somehow we could get them all in the same place (here) without the annoyingness of somewhere like ESB.

 

[nufc_jay]

Alright, Teeto

 

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teetoism

 

[Roe]

Oh and one more thing I will say..

I don't mean to have a "share my opinion or get out" kind of attitude here. Somewhere like ESB could easily get improved with just a bit of decent moderation. You go on ESB or boxingscene and even on the front page there's about half a dozen threads that are exactly the same thing. It only takes someone to merge them together and it'd clean it up loads.

 

[nufc_jay]

Grass roots

 

[NoMas]

Good question...

What you mate said is basically true 'I don't think he's a top level fighter but he's entertaining and wants to fight the best, I like him' except I would leave out the 'I like him' part haha

I think the internet does effect the way you think about any subject your interested in, if your that keen on something that you actually go to a forum dedicated to it, and hear other peoples views and opinions, and they point out certain things you havnt noticed about the subject, its gonna change or tweak the way you see certain things about it...

 

[scribbs]

Internet sites are really not much different than printed rags. Boxing News used to be pretty decent read (80's/early 90's) but turned into a news/rumour rag & monthly mags have also printed stuff to sensationalise/debase fighters. You are spot on, sites like the scene produce articles to drive traffic but a lot of them are fluffer articles & sometimes wading through them can be a chore.

Regarding Khan, there was a question mark against his chin in the am's, having been dropped by Frankie Gavin (Craig Watson not Gavin). For me personally, it was the Limond fight that I knew he would have issues with his punch resistance & then Prescott came along to completely expose it. Amir is a exciting fighter to watch & will be interesting to see him at 147 as he seemed to have more resistance at 140 when he wasn't struggling to make lightweight.

As No Mas stated, sometimes you view some info & someone will come with a fresh perspective that provokes a new way of looking at the situation, but it can also lead to a stirring debate between 2 opposing viewpoints.

Regarding CHB, It will be nice to have more people active online but there would be a tipping point is it became too busy. There's a balance between having decent input & getting spam. As Roe stated, ESB is full of threads that could be merged & more importantly for me, has some that are utterly pointless. Personally I like the smaller forums as you tend to get mainly serious discussions & relevant threads. I like CHB as it is mainly a Brit forum, but I like another forum because it has a more generic world output (not esb).

 

[allenko1]

ake a dlI don't get that Khan is hated, it's just that not everybody cheer for him. that don't mean he's hated. of course it does matter how you look at things ehen you're online as much as we are. you can be cynical, apathetic, over-enthusiastic, and yes hateful. so many other sports get the time and interest, this is the way by and large we get our news...

 

[JamieC]

Internet sites are really not much different than printed rags. Boxing News used to be pretty decent read (80's/early 90's) but turned into a news/rumour rag & monthly mags have also printed stuff to sensationalise/debase fighters. You are spot on, sites like the scene produce articles to drive traffic but a lot of them are fluffer articles & sometimes wading through them can be a chore.

Regarding Khan, there was a question mark against his chin in the am's, having been dropped by Frankie Gavin. For me personally, it was the Limond fight that I knew he would have issues with his punch resistance & then Prescott came along to completely expose it. Amir is a exciting fighter to watch & will be interesting to see him at 147 as he seemed to have more resistance at 140 when he wasn't struggling to make lightweight.

As No Mas stated, sometimes you view some info & someone will come with a fresh perspective that provokes a new way of looking at the situation, but it can also lead to a stirring debate between 2 opposing viewpoints.

Regarding CHB, It will be nice to have more people active online but there would be a tipping point is it became too busy. There's a balance between having decent input & getting spam. As Roe stated, ESB is full of threads that could be merged & more importantly for me, has some that are utterly pointless. Personally I like the smaller forums as you tend to get mainly serious discussions & relevant threads. I like CHB as it is mainly a Brit forum, but I like another forum because it has a more generic world output (not esb).

He fought Gavin in the ams?

 

[dftaylor]

There aren't any Budd Schulbergs or Hugh McIllvaneys any more. Boxing journalism has been taken over by "fans" with no ability to tell a cohesive, compelling narrative. These are people who think writing hate-filled, poorly researched diatribes is the same as a proper op-ed. They've never spent time around fighters or gyms, they don't know any of the factors involved in making a fight and they pick sides instead of presenting the whole story.

The internet has given fans a voice, but very few of them know how to use it. Boxing Monthly is one of the few boxing publications that still maintains standards in its features. Boxing News is a pitiful read now, with sloppy research and second-rate writing.

I suppose, in direct answer to the OP, it has created a much more divided landscape for fighters. As soon as someone gets praised, there's a backlash. It's nearly impossible to take a fighter for what they are. There are diametrically opposed groups. Khan is great/Khan is a bum. Haye is great and exciting/Haye's a salesman. Etc.

We end having people posting idiotic comments about how someone is biased (if they can even spell the word correctly) if they disagree. We've got the magical "true boxing fans" who only exist if they agree with you. It's why I'm posting less and less anywhere about the sport.

 

[Post Box]

Most casual fans I speak to certainly don't think that about Khan :lol: they just think he's a shit cunt and want him to be ko'd

Think people have more respect for boxers on the (sensible) forums

 

[scribbs]

He fought Gavin in the ams?

Sorry, My error, it was Craig Watson, for some reason I thought it was Gavin, my memory is getting worse :conf

 

[JamieC]

Sorry, My error, it was Craig Watson, for some reason I thought it was Gavin, my memory is getting worse :conf

No worries mate :good Gavin and Khan must have sparred in the ams surely at some point?