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Without wanting to sound judgmental (the point of this thread isn't to debate whether he has a glass heart or whatever) does anyone actually believe he had a broken wrist? Nearly every opinion I've seen is that he blew his load in the seventh and Burns had loads left and was starting to connect and Gonzalez couldnt or believed he couldn't last 3 more. Does anyone take his excuse of a broken hand at face value? Or does anyone even believe he had a broken hand? (If this has been confirmed I do apologise)
 

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Yeah, I believe him 100%. His offence just went after round 7. It didn't look like he was completely spent, he just couldn't throw any right hands and now we know why. He fought 2 whole rounds (8 and 9) with only a jab. So it's clear to me that there was definitely a serious problem with his right. He pawed it out a few times but couldn't commit with it at all.

Yeah, he probably could've tried to fight on and just jab his way through the last 3 rounds but it was obviously too much of a problem for him.
 

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Yeah, I believe him 100%. His offence just went after round 7. It didn't look like he was completely spent, he just couldn't throw any right hands and now we know why. He fought 2 whole rounds (8 and 9) with only a jab. So it's clear to me that there was definitely a serious problem with his right. He pawed it out a few times but couldn't commit with it at all.

Yeah, he probably could've tried to fight on and just jab his way through the last 3 rounds but it was obviously too much of a problem for him.
report I read said it was his left wrist though...
 

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report I read said it was his left wrist though...
:think I could try to argue my way out of this but maybe I'm just wrong here then :lol:

My point still stands that his whole offence went anyway though tbf. Maybe it being the left was an even bigger problem, because all he was doing was flicking out the jab anyway. He wasn't throwing the uppercuts with it that he was earlier on in the fight.

Whatever wrist/arm/hand it was, my point still stands that it had a serious affect on his performance in round 8 and 9. The injury was a much bigger problem than him gassing. At least in my opinion.
 

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:think I could try to argue my way out of this but maybe I'm just wrong here then :lol:

My point still stands that his whole offence went anyway though tbf. Maybe it being the left was an even bigger problem, because all he was doing was flicking out the jab anyway. He wasn't throwing the uppercuts with it that he was earlier on in the fight.

Whatever wrist/arm/hand it was, my point still stands that it had a serious affect on his performance in round 8 and 9. The injury was a much bigger problem than him gassing. At least in my opinion.
i honestly didnt think there was anything wrong with his arm in 8/9. He just looked fucked to me, and we havent heard anything about his wrist post fight, which to me is a bit odd, you'd think he'd want to get an x-ray showing the fracture out asap
 

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:think I could try to argue my way out of this but maybe I'm just wrong here then :lol:

My point still stands that his whole offence went anyway though tbf. Maybe it being the left was an even bigger problem, because all he was doing was flicking out the jab anyway. He wasn't throwing the uppercuts with it that he was earlier on in the fight.

Whatever wrist/arm/hand it was, my point still stands that it had a serious affect on his performance in round 8 and 9. The injury was a much bigger problem than him gassing. At least in my opinion.
It could be his offense went because he gassed...
 

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i honestly didnt think there was anything wrong with his arm in 8/9. He just looked fucked to me, and we havent heard anything about his wrist post fight, which to me is a bit odd, you'd think he'd want to get an x-ray showing the fracture out asap
He was looking a little weary in the fifth, breathing heavily. There are lots of types of pressure, not just physics.

Considering how many punches he threw in the seventh, and how little of a dent he made in Burns, I don't buy he had hurt himself.

God forbid anyone gives Ricky credit for coming through adversity.
 

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He was looking a little weary in the fifth, breathing heavily. There are lots of types of pressure, not just physics.

Considering how many punches he threw in the seventh, and how little of a dent he made in Burns, I don't buy he had hurt himself.

God forbid anyone gives Ricky credit for coming through adversity.
exactly, i can say from experience I get more tired when i throw a lot of punches and nothing seems to happen, it just drains you so much. of course he could have genuinely fractured his wrist but usually you can tell when someone has a hand injury and i didnt clock on
 

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He was looking a little weary in the fifth, breathing heavily. There are lots of types of pressure, not just physics.

Considering how many punches he threw in the seventh, and how little of a dent he made in Burns, I don't buy he had hurt himself.

God forbid anyone gives Ricky credit for coming through adversity.
I dunno how you can give him much credit. I mean fair play to him for sticking it out and riding the storm, he deserves props for that but this is one of the ebest cases of a fighter losing the fight rather than the other winning it. Even went Gonzalez was spent Burns didn't do anything to him and effectively won the last two rounds on being more active rather than actually landing anything worthwhile.
 

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I dunno how you can give him much credit. I mean fair play to him for sticking it out and riding the storm, he deserves props for that but this is one of the ebest cases of a fighter losing the fight rather than the other winning it. Even went Gonzalez was spent Burns didn't do anything to him and effectively won the last two rounds on being more active rather than actually landing anything worthwhile.
He was landing enough that Gonzalez obviously felt he couldn't go on, whether he was injured or tired. I hate that mentality of "so and so lost the fight, rather than the other guy won". It completely discredits the other man. Look at it this way:

Burns was barely landing, he couldn't get his jab going and he was getting hit frequently. Gonzalez was dictating the pace and range of the fight, was landing the hurtful shots, and had Burns on wobbly legs in the 7th. Most fair observers had him up by at least six rounds to one, at best for Burns.

Yet, the man on the bad side of the fight is the one that stays strong, keeps working and starts to have some success and is controlling the fight right after getting hurt. It's easy to be confident and positive when you're dishing out the hurt, but to do it when you know you're losing and struggling to find a solution is deserving of real credit, IMO.

He had a crap night, fought as poorly as he has in years, and still found a way to win. It's reductive to say Gonzalez threw it away. Whether through his toughness, refusal to wilt or whatever, Burns made him quit. It was a bad performance, but he got the result.
 

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