[Danny]

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By Miguel Rivera

The World Boxing Council has advised BoxingScene.com that a mandatory fight between junior welterweights Danny Garcia (25-0, 16KOs) and Lucas Matthysse (32-2, 30KOs) will be ordered in the coming weeks - provided both boxers win their upcoming fights.

Matthysse is scheduled to defend his WBC interim-junior welterweight belt at the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas on Saturday, January 26, against challenger Mike Dallas Jr. Meanwhile, Garcia will defend his WBC full title, and the WBA belt, against former champion Zab Judah on Saturday, February 9 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

According to the WBC, after these two fights are completed - they plan to issue an order directing the winners of the two matches to face each other. If either boxer refuses to move forward with the fight - the party will "forfeit their title" says the WBC.

Both Garcia and Matthysse are promoted by Golden Boy Promotions.

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Thoughts? I still don't see this happening mind, seems too good to be true. Golden Boy promote both fighters so have the means to keep them apart if they wish.

Matthysse is the dangerman in the division, and still unknown/irrelevant in US boxing to the point he's been 'robbed' (or at least 0 for 2 in close decisions) against both big name American's he's faced in his career thus far.

Would GB want to sacrifice a young, humble, American kid who's unbeaten, has two belts, and a knockout punch amongst star qualities to a largely unknown Argentine? I'm not so sure.

 

[Lilo]

They could keep them apart but there'd be serious backlash if they did. They theoretically could make Garcia drop the WBC, let Matthysse become full champ and Garcia is WBA champ. Let them have another defence each and then have them fight a unification which is much bigger than a defence. They could easily hide behind the 'no unifications' WBC rule for this, so expect Garcia to be made Champion Emiterus a la Ward.

If they did this though, its just unjustifiable and there'd be serious anger. I think they would make the Canelo-Lara if Lara had beaten Vanes but got lucky when they fought a draw.

I think it will happen although not sure if it'll be their next fight or not.

 

[Chatty]

Garcia will drop the belt, no way Golden Boy are letting Matthysse take him out. If he's going to lose this year they want it to be Khan

 

[Libertarian]

I don't think it'll happen.

To me, they're not bothered what happens to Matthysse, but Garcia is an asset they'd like to protect.

Both play 2nd fiddle to Khan anyways, though that will change permanently if Garcia fights Khan again, because he would do him just the same.

 

[BoxingAnalyst]

Golden Boy have been protecting Garcia from Matthysse for a reason, he'll get slaughtered.

 

[w;dkm ckeqfjq c]

I hope this happens so much.

 

[Thomas!!]

I hope it happens too, Matthysse would ktfo of that kid Gracia so bad.

 

[JamieC]

I hope this happens so much.

:deal i like Garcia but Matthysse deserves his shot and to take his rightful place as No1

 

[Wickio]

I have my fingers firmly crossed that this will happen. Matthysse deserves the chance and takes the win in my eyes.

 

[Scotty]

No reason this cannot happen. They had been building both guys nicely on Showtime. If GBP were all about protecting their own guys, do you think they would have made Garcia v Khan?

 

[JamieC]

No reason this cannot happen. They had been building both guys nicely on Showtime. If GBP were all about protecting their own guys, do you think they would have made Garcia v Khan?

I think they planned to use a guy with a belt and pretty record to make Khan an undisputed champ to sell a Khan Mayweather PPV, instead they've ended up with an extremely sellable likeable undefeated American knockout artist who has a breakout win over Khan. I think people are wrong that Garcia still plays second fiddle to Khan, what does Khan bring to Golden Boy to rival what Garcia brings long term? They'll still use him to branch over to England, but hes not the commodity he was

 

[adamcanavan]

No reason this cannot happen. They had been building both guys nicely on Showtime. If GBP were all about protecting their own guys, do you think they would have made Garcia v Khan?

Difference is that khan-Garcia was a win win situation. A khan win would of lead to a massive fight, possibly a move up in weight. And since Garcia won they have a young, undefeated marketable fighter from Philly with knockout power. they couldn't lose.
If matthyse wins, there isn't much interest in him. There might be a spark of interest from the win but nothing golden boy could milk for a long time

 

[Scotty]

I think they planned to use a guy with a belt and pretty record to make Khan an undisputed champ to sell a Khan Mayweather PPV, instead they've ended up with an extremely sellable likeable undefeated American knockout artist who has a breakout win over Khan. I think people are wrong that Garcia still plays second fiddle to Khan, what does Khan bring to Golden Boy to rival what Garcia brings long term? They'll still use him to branch over to England, but hes not the commodity he was

Difference is that khan-Garcia was a win win situation. A khan win would of lead to a massive fight, possibly a move up in weight. And since Garcia won they have a young, undefeated marketable fighter from Philly with knockout power. they couldn't lose.
If matthyse wins, there isn't much interest in him. There might be a spark of interest from the win but nothing golden boy could milk for a long time

This is Danny Garcia here. We are not talking about a guy like Bute getting 20k at home and raking in the money when he fights anyone.
He fights Morales in Houston cause Erik can sell there. He fights Khan in Vegas and then in a rematch with Morales the crowd is still against him and this is in New York of all places! Why is he fighting in NY again? Why because that's Zab's town. He is not a ticket seller and the only way he is going to become one is by beating guys like Matthysse.
If there is no interest in Matthysse why is he headlining Showtime again? If he beats Garcia look at the other fights it can open up for him and Golden Boy.
The other thing is it's not as though the guy who loses is on the scrapheap. If the fight is a cracker both guys stock goes up. Is Alvarado in a worse place now after the Rios war? Both guys are strong and young enough to bounce right back.

 

[Chatty]

No reason this cannot happen. They had been building both guys nicely on Showtime. If GBP were all about protecting their own guys, do you think they would have made Garcia v Khan?

They we're happy to play make or break with Khan as he had screwed up his last fight and the farce he crocked up afterwards made him look like a right dick. if he won they could wipe the Peterson loss out behind the PED allegations, use his unified 140 credentials to make the Mayweather fight which would have made loads of money and if Khan lost he doesn't lose to much credability due to the opponent.

Garcia was really a name so if he caused an upset then they had an unbeaten unifed American champion with a bit of charisma so they couldn't lose with that fight.

This is different, Matthysse is a foreign export with two losses (even though he won) who is hardly known and is a much harder sell (even though he is brilliant to watch) so its a lot more risk fr them than the other fight.

 

[adamcanavan]

This is Danny Garcia here. We are not talking about a guy like Bute getting 20k at home and raking in the money when he fights anyone.
He fights Morales in Houston cause Erik can sell there. He fights Khan in Vegas and then in a rematch with Morales the crowd is still against him and this is in New York of all places! Why is he fighting in NY again? Why because that's Zab's town. He is not a ticket seller and the only way he is going to become one is by beating guys like Matthysse.
If there is no interest in Matthysse why is he headlining Showtime again? If he beats Garcia look at the other fights it can open up for him and Golden Boy.
The other thing is it's not as though the guy who loses is on the scrapheap. If the fight is a cracker both guys stock goes up. Is Alvarado in a worse place now after the Rios war? Both guys are strong and young enough to bounce right back.

Danny Garcia is a young Hispanic American who is unbeaten and has knockout power, they can build that up easily. Matthyse is a very exciting fighter but there isn't really much of an Argentinian community to get behind him in the states. And be realistic, yes rios Alvarado was a great fight but rios was the attraction, Alvarado isn't realistically going to headline major events on his own merit just because he was in a good fight, however much I'd like to see him do that

 

[Scotty]

@adamcanavan @chatty
The majority of people who tune into boxing on Showtime and HBO are not doing so just because an American or a Mexican guy if fighting. Why do you think HBO signed GGG up? Exciting guys get viewers and Matthysse brings it. GBP have thrown their guys together in the past and you can be certain Showtime will be pushing for Matthysse v Garcia. Remember Matthyse was at one time going to be the main support for the Zab v Garcia card to help build it.

"Can you imagine if Matthysse [fought Garcia]...Matthysse, what he did to [Humberto] Soto. Matthysse, at 140...[Garcia] and Matthysee, can you imagine that? A pick'em fight," Schaefer said this prior to the Ajose fight and interest in this fight is a lot higher now.

Here is what Schaefer has to say about it. Looks to me like he wants the fight and for the reasons I have already said. fingers crossed!

 

[JamieC]

This is Danny Garcia here. We are not talking about a guy like Bute getting 20k at home and raking in the money when he fights anyone.
He fights Morales in Houston cause Erik can sell there. He fights Khan in Vegas and then in a rematch with Morales the crowd is still against him and this is in New York of all places! Why is he fighting in NY again? Why because that's Zab's town. He is not a ticket seller and the only way he is going to become one is by beating guys like Matthysse.
If there is no interest in Matthysse why is he headlining Showtime again? If he beats Garcia look at the other fights it can open up for him and Golden Boy.
The other thing is it's not as though the guy who loses is on the scrapheap. If the fight is a cracker both guys stock goes up. Is Alvarado in a worse place now after the Rios war? Both guys are strong and young enough to bounce right back.

Berto wasnt a ticket seller either was he? I dont doubt what youre saying, I agree, but promoters seem to lack logic so i think they will now try and build Garcia if possible, but if they make this then fair play theyve proved me wrong