How many true British world champion have we had?
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Lets say:
Undisputed/Champion/No 1: Lennoz Lewis, Randy Turpin, Ted 'Kid' Lewis, Jack 'Kid' Berg, Bob Fitzsimmons
Number 1 w/questions: David Haye, Naseem Hamed
Belt Holder/legit quarter champ: Junior Witter, Enzo Macaranelli, Frank Bruno
Paper Champ: Nathan Cleverly, Alex Arthur/Nicky Cook
Undisputed/Champion/No 1: Lennoz Lewis, Randy Turpin, Ted 'Kid' Lewis, Jack 'Kid' Berg, Bob Fitzsimmons
Number 1 w/questions: David Haye, Naseem Hamed
Belt Holder/legit quarter champ: Junior Witter, Enzo Macaranelli, Frank Bruno
Paper Champ: Nathan Cleverly, Alex Arthur/Nicky Cook
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Hatton was a (questionable?) boss at 140
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Joe bowker at bantamweight is one that often gets overlooked
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Shocking that you left Wilde off the list. Not talking to you anymore
:lol:I expected that from you - I left him off specifically for you to bring up mate.
Nah I could go on and on but then there would be no conversation.
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Good call. It's hard to call where the old timers sit. I know a guy from Will curley from up here had a claim to a world title but I'm pretty sure he wasn't really any sort of world champ and just a contender.
Bowker was a world champ though, was he number one in the division at the time though. I really don't know
I could see Hatton as a legit 140 champ with his better claim being when he didn't own any titles. For six months between Malignaggi until Pacquaio.
Probably second category. Number one guy but Espana and Kenty holding the other title at the same time stopping him from being undisputed.
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On Sky Sports when he said that John Simpson beat Choi.
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Should be no question over Naz.
Freddie Welsh is one of the greatest lightweights of all time. Some questionable defences (often could only lose title if he was stopped, which was hard to do) and proved himself the best when he beat Benny Leonard in their second fight.
Conteh beating Ahumada, who was robbed against Foster, should see him as the genuine champ' but inactivity due to hand injuries would see most call Galindez the main man shortly after Conteh won the belt.
It's hard to call on Jackie Paterson, though with all his titles at two different weights he must've been the best guy around for a time. Yes he won the Flyweight title off Kane but that bout is one of the stupidest title fights I've ever seen, not just at fly but at any weight.
Buchanan when he beat Laguna.
Freddie Welsh is one of the greatest lightweights of all time. Some questionable defences (often could only lose title if he was stopped, which was hard to do) and proved himself the best when he beat Benny Leonard in their second fight.
Conteh beating Ahumada, who was robbed against Foster, should see him as the genuine champ' but inactivity due to hand injuries would see most call Galindez the main man shortly after Conteh won the belt.
It's hard to call on Jackie Paterson, though with all his titles at two different weights he must've been the best guy around for a time. Yes he won the Flyweight title off Kane but that bout is one of the stupidest title fights I've ever seen, not just at fly but at any weight.
Buchanan when he beat Laguna.
Hmmm guys who were undoubtedly number 1 from British shores
Calzaghe
Hatton
Lewis
Hamed
Haye
Turpin
Honeyghan
Wilde
Stracey
Fitzsimmons
Welsh
Patterson
Buchanan
Bowler
T K Lewis
Some Others
And of course, the goat - Frank Bruno
Much easier to identify in earlier climates. I know today some people cling onto 1v2 but without unifications it's hard pinning down a consensus number 1.
Calzaghe
Hatton
Lewis
Hamed
Haye
Turpin
Honeyghan
Wilde
Stracey
Fitzsimmons
Welsh
Patterson
Buchanan
Bowler
T K Lewis
Some Others
And of course, the goat - Frank Bruno
Much easier to identify in earlier climates. I know today some people cling onto 1v2 but without unifications it's hard pinning down a consensus number 1.
minter is tough to say cos Hagler was seen by many as the best in the world before they fought.
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Hagler may of been seen as the number one middleweight but rightly or wrongly vito was the man with monzon's belts .boom boom took them away and brought them back to England he was globally recognised as the undisputed middleweight champ . He was a true lineal champion
yeah but if you hold a belt and aren't globally recognised as number 1 you're a paper champ in my eyes. I dont have much conviction on this specific case,need to watch Hagler v Vito again.
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