He's been my favourite fighter for years, what a legend. Most complete fighter of his era (now challenged by Ward) but not the best IMO. When it comes to effectiveness we have some guys who are better overall but I see @Chacal you're talking about resume and legacy so in that regard you could actually be right. He has had a sublime career. WAR Bernard Hopkins, and yes, I've had him beating Calazage by a point every time I've watched that fight.