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There are often times a bit of news will come out about boxing but creating a new thread for it seems a waste of time and will just unneccessarily add to the hundreds of pages that already exist on the forum so I figured I'd make this in case it's not just me who feels this way (and I want to comment about something I've just seen that isn't worthy of its own thread).

 

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OK so KSI (a youtuber from the UK plus he fought Jake Paul's brother in his pro-debut a few years back) is "fighting" this weekend on DAZN PPV, I already knew it was on PPV here which I actually don't mind as I wouldn't watch it if it was free anyway (we've got Pedraza vs Commey to look forward to instead) but I've just seen that for the first time since DAZN launched their PPV service I believe, the show will be PPV not only here but in the USA too!

Does anyone in the US even know who KSI is? I barely know who he is and we're from the same country. The fight is taking place in London so will be on in the afternoon in parts of the US, and is scheduled for 6 rounds lol, who's buying this? I've just looked up his opponent he's British too so yeah very surprised DAZN are charging in the US, obviously I or DAZN are missing something here but at this point it seems DAZN are simply taking the piss.

 

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I'm from the States and follow boxing, though not as much as I once did. That said, I've never heard of KSI but have seen where DAZN has changed their stance on PPV fights. One of their big selling points of their business plan when they first got started was to stream championship caliber fights with name fighters for the price of your basic subscription and one of the reasons I have had it for a few years now.

This new PPV format is not in line with that initial business plan and one that has me considering if I will keep my subscription when it is due in a month from now. They also raised their yearly subscription price from $99 to $149 USD--------AND now charging PPV for their big fights. Bit of a "money grab" in my eyes.

Yep same over here, they've gone PPV mad, aside from this KSI show tomorrow night they're putting Eubank Jr vs Benn and Canelo vs GGG III (which will be shown here at 3 in the morning) on PPV also so that's 3 PPV shows in 6 weeks and then they wonder why people just rip it off.

The changes indicate the business is in financial distress, $99 to $149 is quite a leap in one go, smacks of an attempt to stop the bleeding

 

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Yeh I have mentioned before DAZN looks shaky going from no PPV to all PPV, I have watched all the Canelo fights at 4,5am for free up to now and they have now put this one PPV and I expect all of his future fights will be which I won't pay for. I don't care about Youtube fights so I would never pay for that. The Benn v Eubank Jr fight is exactly the kind of fight that EH would have previously claimed would have been a Sky PPV and part of the sub on DAZN but now it is DAZN PPV too. I pretty much have a rule that to even consider a PPV it has to be a World Title fight (I have only broken that once for Whyte v Povetkin but that had a great undercard and was during COVID when we weren't allowed out). I'm holding on to see the rest of the Matchroom autumn schedule to see whether it is worth keeping my DAZN, the Wood v Lara fight and undercard are great but they will need to have at least 2 more shows like that during oct and Nov for me to stay on board.

Didn't you buy AJ vs Whyte? I did, can't remember the undercard though but that was back when the price was less obviously

 

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Tomorrow night undefeated British 175lb champion Dan Azeez makes the 2nd defence of the title against Shakan Pitters, gutted I won't be available to watch it live but first thing Sunday I'll be watching, I like the fight, best on the card imo, I'm gonna go with Azeez but Pitters has the tools to win it but he needs time and space and he won't be getting either tomorrow night of that I'm sure.

 

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The BBBC have followed the English Premier League and decided to postpone all events this weekend in wake of the passing of the Queen yesterday.

So the grugde match between Claressa Shields and Savannah Marshall will now take place on October 15th

 

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Denzel Bentley just made a successful defence of his British 160lb title with a 4th round stoppage at the iconic York Hall. A good but short scrap, very entertaining. Morrison unhappy with his trainer calling it when he did but it was only going to end one way at that point in the fight.

Would love to see the rematch with Cash, I picked him to win that and he got destroyed but I think he could do much better next time.

 

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A few weeks ago I thought we had a November date for the Welterweight undisputed showdown, since then there's been no announcement and apparently negotiations have stalled.

So that's enough of Spence Jr tying up the belts I say, it's time Jaron Ennis got his shot, I think he's had 30 fights already and still no title shot, he might have more fights than the champion at this point, it's time he was named mandatory for one of the belts, the IBF are normally on top of things but they've been muted when it comes to 147 of late.

If we don't get undisputed this year someone Spence Jr must be forced to fight Ennis and Crawford, Ortiz Jr, imo at least, hopefully the alphabets agree, we'll see.

 

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Just wanted to mention the WBA heavyweight top 15 which was updated 7 days ago because it's a bit strange.

They've got Michael Hunter in the number 1 position, they're the only alphabet body with Ortiz in the top 10, they've got Hughie Fury above Anthony Joshua, for some reason they've thrown Otto Wallin out altogether but the biggest eyebrow raiser is Jarrell Miller is ranked in their top 15 and the WBA are the only sanctioning body to be ranking the persistent drug cheat as of today.

 

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Has Teofimo Lopez Jr left Top Rank?

 

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Denzel Bentley just made a successful defence of his British 160lb title with a 4th round stoppage at the iconic York Hall. A good but short scrap, very entertaining. Morrison unhappy with his trainer calling it when he did but it was only going to end one way at that point in the fight.

Would love to see the rematch with Cash, I picked him to win that and he got destroyed but I think he could do much better next time.

Scratch that, forget Felix Cash, Denzel "Too Sharp" Bentley will make his first attempt at a world title when he takes on the WBO world Middleweight champion in Las Vegas, USA on 12th November. Great opportunity for Bentley here, massive underdog I'm sure but I wish him the very best and will be rooting for him to return with the gold.

 

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No he is still with Top Rank has moved up a division to 140lbs and will be fighting Jose Pedraza next.

He never held all 4 of the main belts. Devin Haney held one.

Oh right, I'm sure he was on this list a year or so ago so wondered what caused the apparent change of stance.

 

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These people can't make up their minds it seems

 

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In a nutshell.
When Teofimo Lopez beat Lomachenko he received the honorary title of WBC franchise champ. ( Whatever that is) And they elevated the interim champ Devin Haney to the full WBC champ.

Top Rank therefore promoted Lopez as undisputed. And ignored Haney whilst the media and everyone else did not recognise Lopez as Undisputed... Cus he had not fought Haney for all the marbles.

What changed is Haney signed a three fight deal with Top Rank before the first Kambosos fight. Top Rank fell in line with everybody else and recognised Haney as undisputed when he beat Kambosos for the other three titles.

Haney is next slated to fight Lomachenko.

Ah I see, so TL didn't leave but DH joined. Oh dear, this is terrible I mean you'd think they'd at least go back and edit the old video titles to make people like me look crazy and confused. I knew he was on the TR undisputed list at the time, now he's been dropped because they promote Haney? Nice.

 

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So Paul Butler was on talkSPORT recently (I just watched it now) and he's claiming that his next opponent Naoya Inoue has refused to sign up for VADA testing, well, that's what he said before doubling back and stating that he wouldn't for the Donaire fight implying that since he wouldn't for that fight he won't now either.

Butler will take on Inoue in Japan in December (I think it's the 3rd) but he's out here tacitly suggesting that Inoue is on drugs. I hope a lawsuit doesn't scupper the fight although I fully expect Inoue to make light work of the Brit.

Anyway I do have a question, i it because Inoue is the unified champion that he's not obligated to join the WBC's CBP? Or is Butler talking rubbish?

 

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I dont know what titles Inoue holds but if he holds a WBC title he will be part of the WBC CBP.

The extra VADA testing agreement is optional between fighters for a fight. And involves more random tests.

For example Conor Benn signed up for WBC CBP earlier this year. But for the fight with Chris Eubank jr signed up for extra testing by VADA for this particular fight on top of the WBC CBP.

He's the reigning WBC, WBA & IBF champion. So Butler must have been on about Inoue not paying £30'000 for extra testing but if he's enrolled in the CBP already what's the problem? He tried to smear him, luckily for him Inoue & his lawyers don't speak English

If Benn refused to sign up for more I wouldn't have criticised him at all, how many packages must one sign up for? The CBP is enough, didn't that catch Canelo?

 

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Jaron Ennis has now contacted the IBF about his shot at the world Welterweight title following the announcement that Terence Crawford will fight on Dec 10.

Ennis (IBF), Stanionis (WBA) Petition To Enforce Mandatory Title Shot Against Spence

The mandatory contenders in waiting for Errol Spence Jr. are eager to advance to the front of the line. Both the WBA and IBF have been met with petitions filed by the teams of Eimantas Stanionis and Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis, respectively, to enforce a due welterweight title shot. The moves came in...

www.boxingscene.com

The walls are closing in on the Texan, the only way to avoid Ennis is to make the fight with Crawford but both men pose a tremendous risk to his continued reign at the top of the class. Since Crawford's moved on for the time being there's nowhere else to go without getting stripped surely

 

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Undisputed Lightweight champion Devin Haney was in New York on Friday night to watch Lomachenko vs Ortiz headline the Top Rank card.

After the fight he came face to face with the Ukranian who asked "is this a Lightweight?" referring to Haney's size out of competition.

The champ says he's happy to give Loma a shot at the crown so long as he accepts he's the B-side. It won't be too long before he starts missing weight if he keeps on at 135, he's undisputed so he can go up now.

 

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Boxing's other undisputed Lightweight champion is calling for a rematch with Amanda Serrano in Ireland. Katie Taylor made the 6th successful defence of her undisputed crown last night when she soundly outpointed Karen Carabajal in the United Kingdom but it's in her native Ireland she would like to fight next and she says Serrano can help her fill the 80'000 seat stadium she has her heart set on.

That's all good but I wonder if I'm alone in wondering why this lady doesn't change divisions and look for new challenges rather than trying to bring Serrano up 2 weight classes again? No one wants to see a rematch at 35 in her backyard, that only has one outcome so no thank you. Every other top female fighter goes up and down the divisions as the competition in each class is limited but not KT, she's been tying up the belts at 35 for years now and everytime we get a high profile opponent the opponent has to come to 135, she could go down and fight Baumgardner for instance or move up and rematch the Caskiller, this refusal to budge isn't helping the GWOAT claims her fans like to make constantly