[nufc_jay]

Who takes this..?

 

[scribbs]

Dempsey for me. Toney had good classic old time skills so it would not be a walk over but I think Dempsey has the ferocity to make any fight around this weight difficult. Dempsey was one of the hardest punchers in Heavyweight history & although he could be hurt and dropped, he had good recuperative powers. It would have to be Dempsey from 1919-1922. My pick would Dempsey by close decision or possible late stoppage over 15 but I'm not too sure if 12 round distance, maybe Toney could eke a decision over the shorter distance but still favour Jack.

 

[Flea Man]

Toney lacks the feet to get out of the way. Even with his defence and chin he gets outworked and loses a decision.

 

[Teeto]

I think it's more a case of Dempsey plays into Toney's hands than vice versa. The kryptonite for Toney has always been footwork, because he is pretty much stationary himself. Even when great fighters like McCallum used the kryptonite against him it wasnt enough to get a convincing win, simply because Toney was good enough at what he was doing in his own right. You could argue that Dempsey has a style advantage too on the basis of Toney allowing Dempsey to come in on him, but to me prime Dempsey isn't too bothered about guys going to him or away from him, because his footwork was brilliant in terms of closing the distance in a rapid manner, he cut the ring off brilliantly, and he had fine head movement. Whereas Toney's bread and butter was dudes coming into him to fight. I reckon Toney would look brilliant at times, and I want to say he would be overwhelmed and ko'd late, because Dempsey is the naturally larger man, but I am going to go against the grain and say I don't see it, because Dempsey, as celebrated as he is, was not invincible and Toney is very durable, I think he does enough scoring on the basis of a styles match up to get a decision

 

[Flea Man]

Dempsey takes a decision or Toney? @Teeto

 

[JamieC]

I see a Dempsey close decisionmainly helped by his workrate, i cant see a stoppage here, and i think Toney would be a live dog definitely, he might make Jack pay for some misses but overall will be outworked
@Flea Man nice to see you back

 

[Teeto]

Dempsey takes a decision or Toney? @Teeto

Sorry mate, Toney

In a case like this Id usually go for the larger man on the basis of them both being great but one man is larger but I think as long as we're talking the best version of Toney at this cruiserweight limit then he has a good chance.

It would likely be a situation where the guy I'm picking would be the underdog though and I'd expect that

 

[Ilesey]

I could see Toney getting outworked here and losing a close but clear UD.

 

[Flea Man]

Sorry mate, Toney

In a case like this Id usually go for the larger man on the basis of them both being great but one man is larger but I think as long as we're talking the best version of Toney at this cruiserweight limit then he has a good chance.

It would likely be a situation where the guy I'm picking would be the underdog though and I'd expect that

Fair do's. It'd be a fun fight however it played out, the styles would dictate it as such.

 

[Michael]

Toney via close decision. His counter punching, excellent infighting ability and ability to roll and slip shots should help him to a win in a great fight.

 

[Yiddle]

Dempsey by ud he out works toney and hits toney anywhere he can