Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez IV (8th Dec)
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Questions:
What is your opinion on this matchup being made for the 4th time?
Who do you feel won the first three fights?
Who do you think will win this fight and how?
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Personally I like the idea of another fight. The first 2 were classics, the third was a little lighter on action but perhaps the most controversial of the lot, arguably the most amazing of the three considering many were worried that an older Marquez could get blasted out by a better built 147 lb Pacquiao.
I scored the first fight 113-112 in favour of Pacquiao, the second 114-113 in favour of Pacquiao and the third I scored 114-114 even. To this date I've still only seen the third fight once (as live). Will definitely have to get round to watching and rescoring again soon.
It's a really tough one to call for me. Pacquiao is the betting favourite for obvious reasons and you tend to think that if it's close, the judges will once again favour Manny's workrate (and popularity).
What is your opinion on this matchup being made for the 4th time?
Who do you feel won the first three fights?
Who do you think will win this fight and how?
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Personally I like the idea of another fight. The first 2 were classics, the third was a little lighter on action but perhaps the most controversial of the lot, arguably the most amazing of the three considering many were worried that an older Marquez could get blasted out by a better built 147 lb Pacquiao.
I scored the first fight 113-112 in favour of Pacquiao, the second 114-113 in favour of Pacquiao and the third I scored 114-114 even. To this date I've still only seen the third fight once (as live). Will definitely have to get round to watching and rescoring again soon.
It's a really tough one to call for me. Pacquiao is the betting favourite for obvious reasons and you tend to think that if it's close, the judges will once again favour Manny's workrate (and popularity).
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Fuck - now I have to rate one of your threads "excellent"
Can't wait for this fucking fight.
I don't believe they should be fighting again, I understand the feeling of injustice felt but I think it's time for Marquez to hang them up. I think he'll be on the end of a wide UD here, I don't think either fighter is capable of a straight KO, maybe a late TKO for Manny but I think it'll go the distance as Marquez has heart by the bucket load.
Can't wait for this fucking fight.
I don't believe they should be fighting again, I understand the feeling of injustice felt but I think it's time for Marquez to hang them up. I think he'll be on the end of a wide UD here, I don't think either fighter is capable of a straight KO, maybe a late TKO for Manny but I think it'll go the distance as Marquez has heart by the bucket load.
I don't mind them fighting again, all three fights were entertaining imo and all were pretty close although the last one was/should have been a clear Marquez win. I don't subscribe to the theory that once guys have fought there is no need to do it again, basically take Floyd out of the equation and there is no better fight for either so why not do it.
I thought Pacquaio won the first two by a solo point, the knockdowns in effect winning him the fights. I aint got a problem with people who believe Marquez won them though as they were very close fights. Marquez won the third pretty clear, I had it 7-5 but it could be wider.
Hardest fight of the series to call, this one. I think Marquez will have a psychological edge knowing the judges aren't edging anything close to manny anymore and will take a lot form his last performance which was clearly his best from the three. Its hard to tell where Manny is right now, is he on the slide, has he just been complacent due to a glorious winning streak, politics, movies, music, fame etc. I think its a bit of both. He needs to disrupt Marquez rhythm if he is to win and I'm not sure if he has the legs to do that anymore. Looking forward to finding out though.
I thought Pacquaio won the first two by a solo point, the knockdowns in effect winning him the fights. I aint got a problem with people who believe Marquez won them though as they were very close fights. Marquez won the third pretty clear, I had it 7-5 but it could be wider.
Hardest fight of the series to call, this one. I think Marquez will have a psychological edge knowing the judges aren't edging anything close to manny anymore and will take a lot form his last performance which was clearly his best from the three. Its hard to tell where Manny is right now, is he on the slide, has he just been complacent due to a glorious winning streak, politics, movies, music, fame etc. I think its a bit of both. He needs to disrupt Marquez rhythm if he is to win and I'm not sure if he has the legs to do that anymore. Looking forward to finding out though.
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1) I believe it wouldn't be necessary if they hadn't robbed Marquez last time round. Nevertheless, i am excited for it.
2) I've changed my mind on the first fight about 5 times. I'll give it to manny though. Second fight - Marquez, third fight - Marquez by far.
3) Don't know how much either guy has left. Fuck it. WARMARQUEZ
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:deal
I had Marquez winning a really lopsided decision in their third fight. Was infuriated when the scores came in.
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You have no idea how much I love your fucking avi.
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Cheers mate, Heisenberg is the king. :good
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Sorry for going off topic.
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I have their fights 1-1-1
113-113 Draw
115-113 Pacquiao
115-113 Marquez (easiest fight to score)
Which means amazingly, after 3 fights, my scorecard is dead level.
113-113 Draw
115-113 Pacquiao
115-113 Marquez (easiest fight to score)
Which means amazingly, after 3 fights, my scorecard is dead level.
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Hmm I reckon that JMM will win again unless Manny stops being so impatient and letting one simple head feint reset his whole rhythm. Manny couldn't plant his feet or build any momentum against JMM because all JMM had to do is feint with his head and manny completely reset or jumped out which meant jmm could attack with those lethal body head combos as manny was in no position to attack usually because he was off balance.
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I'm excited for the fourth fight, the first two were great and I'm a fan of both guys. They still have unfinished business to attend to.
I had the first a draw and the second and third to JMM both by 2 points
I think it will be another close one with JMM actually prevailing the winner for the first time.
I had the first a draw and the second and third to JMM both by 2 points
I think it will be another close one with JMM actually prevailing the winner for the first time.
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