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It's not easy working as a journalist. Building a career in the field, especially in an increasingly niche sport like boxing is a real achievement. But, just sometimes, a writer comes along whose relative success is baffling.

Matt Christie is one such writer. Not content with a sixth form approximation of Jeff Lindsay (the writer of Darkly Dreaming Dexter), he's apparently immune to either logical analysis or being objective during a fight. The man can't read a fight or, apparently, write a decent round-up of one. But my opinions on his shoddy, over-ambitious but under-thought work are well known. Today he did something I never thought possible. He got worse.

This week's Boxing News features a piece on how Joe Calzaghe would fare against the class of 2013. It's a really interesting idea and I was expecting views from maybe Bernard Hopkins as a common opponent, or respected trainers. Instead, we get what amounts to a fan boy's forum post, full of wild speculation without any understanding of the stylistic factors in each fight.

But, that's pretty much par for the course with Matt. So, what bothered me so much? Well, it's a pet hate of mine: poor fact-checking. Whenever I'm writing about something where there's a historical record, I always check it, regardless of how sure I am.

Say for example, I'm writing about Chad Dawson, and I'm sure his only loss is at 168lbs, against Andre Ward. I'm going to state he's never lost at 175lbs. But, just to be sure, I'm going to check his record on BoxRec, or Wikipedia, or FightFax, or with his agent or promoter. Or, if I really want to be sure, the man himself on Twitter.

A quick check of BoxRec reveals I've clearly had a stroke, because somehow I've forgotten his pretty pitiful (and high-profile) loss to Jean Pascal, which netted the Haitian fighter the Ring belt at 175lbs in 2010. So my previous statement was utterly wrong and it only took me around 60 seconds to check this. I'm a professional journalist after all and I want to make sure my facts, even in an speculative opinion piece, are 100% accurate.

Or I could do what Matt Christie does and write some utter bollocks on the very first piece of body copy in the article about Dawson, saying he's undefeated at 175lbs. Despite his first loss being at 175lbs in a high-profile, relatively contemporary bout. And then in the Carl Froch comparison I ignore anything resembling stylistic analysis, indulge my crush on Froch's nose, and write the sort of shit 16-year olds would cringe at.

How the fuck is this man a paid fight journalist? He's fucking dreadful.
 

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Nope, I'm sure he's a nice bloke, but he is a dreadful writer. There's no excuse for a mistake like that, not when it's a lead feature. We've swapped tweets once and I said the same to him then, but about his writing in general.
I don't really want to criticise but I do get the 'Sixth form' vibe too. I just googled his work and read the first one which is a piece about himself on the BN website:

Best boxer you've seen live: My attendance has been limited to UK rings (so far)...

Best fight you've been to: It would have to be Bernard Dunne's topsy-turvy fight of the year contender with Ricardo Cordoba.
which was in Dublin

Not criminal in my eyes but would be to some I'm sure.
 

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I don't really want to criticise but I do get the 'Sixth form' vibe too. I just googled his work and read the first one which is a piece about himself on the BN website:

Best boxer you've seen live: My attendance has been limited to UK rings (so far)...

Best fight you've been to: It would have to be Bernard Dunne's topsy-turvy fight of the year contender with Ricardo Cordoba.

Not criminal in my eyes but would be to some I'm sure.
The way he often writes is the sort of thing a good sub-editor would obliterate within about five minutes of seeing it. It's pretty crass, certainly how much he does it. But, really - not checking a fighter's record before making such a sweeping statement? And no one else on the team, including Tris Dixon, noticing? Slack.
 

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Its a pretty poor mistake, should have been picked up by the editor as well. So you gotta issue a bit of blame on that side as well.

I suppose its pretty tough getting a full magazine out every week when their are only about six staff and the rest are contributors so I can see how the odd mistake slips through but getting someones record wrong, a modern high profile boxer at that, shouldn't really be happening.
 

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Its a pretty poor mistake, should have been picked up by the editor as well. So you gotta issue a bit of blame on that side as well.

I suppose its pretty tough getting a full magazine out every week when their are only about six staff and the rest are contributors so I can see how the odd mistake slips through but getting someones record wrong, a modern high profile boxer at that, shouldn't really be happening.
Absolutely - if it's a news in brief feature, or something similar, that happens. You can't pick up every single thing, especially when you are a small team. But it's the cover feature. Just really poor from Tris and Matt. The design is better, but the content is worse with every week.
 

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I have to agree,really sloppy piece of work.I expect that crap from Powell or Shennen but not the trade paper.The picture on the cover is just appaling,i used to think booth was the smugest man in britain,i`m not so sure now.
 

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You're expert here (yes I'm serious so enjoy :yep) but how much blame should go to the editor for not checking the articles before they go live?
Haha, thanks!

Ultimately, it's the editor's responsibility to create the content plan for each issue and the overall strategy. He should also be encouraging his people to fact check all their copy.

Sadly most print publications have gotten shot of their sub-edit teams, who would do that. And that means the editor and their deputy is usually pressed to check things are accurate. Hence why, across the press, you're seeing more corrections and retractions.

But the blame lies with Matt. Sure he's busy, but this is the lead feature in that issue. That all said, it's not something that could get the magazine in legal bother, so I doubt it matters to many people.

Maybe just me. :(
 

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Danny Flexen once said that Floyd Mayweather could beat Tommy Hearns, and then cried like a girl after I pulled him up on it.

At the very least he's #1 contender to Christie's throne?
The less i say about this particular incident the better :lol:

I like Matt. I worked with him for a short time and he was always polite, knowledgable, and a good guy.

I did read this issue and spotted the mistake immediately. I knew Pascal had beaten Dawson. I watched the fight. But i found myself checking boxrec just to be sure. It was a pretty basic mistake, but he doesnt make them too often. When im writing something, i check records twice as they have to be accurate, but the odd one does slip through

The criticism of the article in general is a little unfair IMO. I would have loved Matt to have delved into the stylistic matchups of each fight, but there just isnt space in a magazine to do that, unless it is a full feature of perhaps 5 pages. Instead, we were left with what, a 250 word recap of each fight, just enough to paint a picture and give the outcome

As for the BN team, Tris is the best writer for me. He is seriously knowledgable, he paints a fantastic scene of a fight, and usually doesnt mince his words.
Flexen, as much as it pains me, is pretty good too. His feature on Tyson Fury a year or so ago was quality. John D is a good writer too, really enjoy reading his stuff. Id like to see him cover more than just the amateur stuff.

Herbert is the worst IMO. I just cant get into his articles. His words dont allow me to lose myself in the action, and i find it hard to put myself ringside. With them
 
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