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If you knew somebody wanting to turn professional what coach would you advise them to train with to help them reach the top of the tree?

Old Guard:

Bob Shannon, Jimmy Tibbs, Ronnie Davies, The Ingles, Jim McDonnell, Enzo Calzaghe, Peter Harrison, Rob McCracken, Adam Booth,

All of these guys have trained champions in the past to the highest levels

Young Gaurd:

Shane McGuigan, Anthony Farnell, Gary Lockett, Billy Nelson, Terry McCormack, Dave Coldwell, Joe Gallagher

These guys have started to become well respected coaches and have shown some good coaching ability over the last few years

Or the third option could be them sticking with their amateur coach they have been with their whole career, we have seen recently the likes of Tony Bellew and Frankie Gavin recently returning to their amateur coaches.

The Boxer:

Just for the thread we'll say the boxer is a good level amateur that has a decent punch but can also box at the same time, is continually improving and has boxed internationally at youth and senior level a couple of times. He also doesn't worry what part of the UK he does his training.

I'd like to see how you you rate these coaches and if you believe that experience is more important than new training techniques that may be employed by the younger coaches.

Also if I have missed any good coaches out that you'd like to mention add them in. I'd like to keep it to coaches in the UK too.

I'd like to see reasons why you would pick the coach you do ie their strengths and also weaknesses or maybe their character.

Lets see who wins Old Guard or Young Guns?

Personally I'd recommend one of the Old Guard,

Jimmy Tibbs, I like the way he seems to train his boxers to be Box-Fighters rather than either just on the back foot or steaming forward trying ton bomb people out.

Ronnie Davies, maybe just because I have a soft spot for Chris Eubank and he was the man who trained him but I like the subtle head movements from the straights to the head that Eubank would use.

Adam Booth, he always seems to have a good game plan for his fighters when they are boxing and if the boxer can box to instruction he'd be a good shout.

Rob McCracken, He is a cool customer in the corners and also comes up with good game plans for his boxers, has also shown by training the GB squad good versatility.

I also posted this over at ESB, just wanted to see if opinions differed

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Its a tough one because different boxers respond to different types of trainer. I'd probably say go for a young gun if they are unorthadox in their approach but go for the old guard if they want to be a solid all round traditional like British boxer.

I do think staying with their amateur coaches can be a very good thing but they might be lacking in the form of higher round experience. I know a lot of excellent young amateur coaches who I think would do wonders in the pro ranks but a lot of them prefer the amateur game and would rather stay there.

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i personally would favour staying with an am coach if theyd coached me from day 1, they know you inside out you know them, you know what they want, it really has to be a good relationship if its going to work. you dont have to be pally, but you both need to be able to communicate easily and there has to be respect of the coach

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Staying with your am coach is good as you already have cemented that working relationship and avoid having to start all over again with a new trainer, however like someone pointed out some am coaches are firmly rooted in the amateur setup and prefer that.

In today's game i think you need an all round solid team, not only a trainer but S&C coach, nutritionist etc who all bring the best out in you and can all work closely together without no or little drama.
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