[Lunny]

I've been on the Price bangwagon express hype train for a long long time now but I can't deny that Fury has made some massive improvements in the past year.

You can say it's his opposition that's helped him shine but I think it's clear to see that it's not just his opposition, he himself is looking a lot sharper and a lot fitter.

Meanwhile Price has been destroying the domestic scene who are clearly a level below him. It'll be interesting to see how he performs when he steps up to the likes of Thompson.

I'm still inclined to say Price but I'm no longer 100% certain on this as I was this time last year.

 

[nufc_jay]

I'm impressed with the shape Fury has got in over the last 18 months or so. Not easy for someone his size. But if he put on a performance like last night against Price I think it'd be an early night for Fury. I'd put Fury on a level with Chisora maybe now, but Price is already a step above in my opinion

 

[Lunny]

I'm impressed with the shape Fury has got in over the last 18 months or so. Not easy for someone his size. But if he put on a performance like last night against Price I think it'd be an early night for Fury. I'd put Fury on a level with Chisora maybe now, but Price is already a step above in my opinion

Yeah but it looks like Fury's going to keep improving now. It'll also be something very different for Price fighting against someone taller than him, as range is a huge part of his game. But then I think Price has shown he's a smart fighter and is quite adaptable, Skelton offered something different and caused a bit of trouble to Price but it only took until the 2nd round for him to work it out and get his man out of there.

Fury used to be sloppy as fuck but his punches seem to have a bit of pop on them now, they're fast and he's throwing them right. His jab has improved hugely imo.

Like you though I think Price is probably that step above Fury still but it would by far be his biggest test so far. Especially with the height thing.

 

[nufc_jay]

Yeah but it looks like Fury's going to keep improving now. It'll also be something very different for Price fighting against someone taller than him, as range is a huge part of his game. But then I think Price has shown he's a smart fighter and is quite adaptable, Skelton offered something different and caused a bit of trouble to Price but it only took until the 2nd round for him to work it out and get his man out of there.

Fury used to be sloppy as fuck but his punches seem to have a bit of pop on them now, they're fast and he's throwing them right. His jab has improved hugely imo.

Like you though I think Price is probably that step above Fury still but it would by far be his biggest test so far. Especially with the height thing.

Yeah the size thing is a big selling point for me, I'd love to see how Price handles it. He's an intelligent fighter though and I think Furys quite a 1 dimensional fighter, but it'll be interesting to watch them both try to find the range against such similar styles.

 

[Batkilt]

I'm not sold on Price yet to be honest. Aye, he's been dispatching opponents pretty quickly but none of those opponents were anywhere near top notch, and the only one that could be classed as near his peak would be Sam Sexton. If the rumours he's to face Tony Thompson are true then it's a decent fight for him. It would be a step up in the level of his opposition, and it'd take more than a few rounds to put him away. I'm on the fence with Price at the moment. I'm not denying he's a good fighter, but I'm not convinced he's The Next Big Thing™ based on his recent streak. I do hope the Thompson fight and a fight with Chisora come off during 2013, and I reckon we'll know more about how good Price really is from those two.

In general neither Fury nor Price have taken on much tough competition yet, but I'd say Fury has faced the tougher opponents if just for having fought Chisora and Johnson. Those are fights he'll have learned something from. Given his age I think Fury is nowhere near at his best yet, and it'll be a while before he is. I'd still fancy him to beat Stiverne and Arreola though if a fight with either came to fruition - as they're both a bit shit really - but I still wouldn't put any money on him beating Eddie Chambers or Odlanier Solis.

If the fight were to happen tomorrow I'd pick Price, but I don't think it's going to happen in 2013. And if it does happen, it'll be after both have either continued to improve as fighters and step up their level of competition, or after one - or both - lose to Wladimir Klitschko.

 

[nufc_jay]

I'd like to see Fury fight Arreola, I think Arreola would be a stylistic nightmare for Fury

 

[Bryn]

I'd like to see Fury fight Arreola, I think Arreola would be a stylistic nightmare for Fury

I thought Chisora would be a stylistic nightmare for Fury, but he overcame that without much trouble.

The way I see it is that Fury is only like 23,I think he's years off his prime and improving all the time whereas Price is right at his peak, so the development of Fury could show him to be a force.

For me, I think Price wins by KO right now, but it's one of those fights that I will be so pumped to see.

 

[Danny]

I'm wavering a bit too, as Fury has really developed his ability to box from the centre of the ring behind his size and jab. Price didn't impress me against Skelton and thus I'm not completely sold. His last couple of fights have shown off his power but not a lot else, and I wasn't impressed by how ineffective his jab was against Skelton and thus the ease with which he let Skelton plus the gap. He also showed that when he lets people within range he's quite hittable, and he'd largely always be in range against Fury.

That said, I'd expect Price - if he uses it correctly - to put himself on the front-foot by prevailing in a jabbing battle against Fury and eventually being able to put his power shots in behind it. Both are capable of knocking each other each, I'd just favour Price's currently superior fundamental skills to lead him to being the one who starts landing the more damaging punches quicker. I'd still pick him to stop Fury mid to late, just not as confident as I was before this weekend.

 

[Jasper Simone]

Too many questions remain about both to be definitive in predicting the outcome for me. The again, I sit on the fence quite often anyways. Nah, Fury has at least faced a little adversity but shown himself open to the right hand, something Price has shown to be quite devastating with at their respective level. Fury has fought the better opposition so far and proven his stamina, something Price hasn't really needed to do yet. Can he?

If it happens next week I'd lean with Price purely and simply because I'd see him catching Fury with that right hand, but the more time goes on, the more inclined I am to believe Fury will continue improving whereas Price won't and therefore Fury will ultimately be the more successful heavyweight.

 

[adamcanavan]

I really can't call it, it's a real 50/50 fight in my eyes

 

[nufc_jay]

I thought Chisora would be a stylistic nightmare for Fury, but he overcame that without much trouble.

The way I see it is that Fury is only like 23,I think he's years off his prime and improving all the time whereas Price is right at his peak, so the development of Fury could show him to be a force.

For me, I think Price wins by KO right now, but it's one of those fights that I will be so pumped to see.

Fair point, though Chisora was massively out of shape and unmotivated for that, I wouldn't be so sure Fury would have is "0" if Chisora had of bothered training for that fight.

 

[Lunny]

I thought Chisora would be a stylistic nightmare for Fury, but he overcame that without much trouble.

KFC was a stylistic nightmare for Chisora. That's the only reason Fury beat him back then. It's Chisora's fault and Fury did what needed doing but I think it's bullshit to be acting like Fury passed the Chisora test and has proved that he can deal with that style.

Fury now though would stand a good chance against Chisora (a Chisora that's not 2 stone overweight).

No 'well prepared Mitchell'.

 

[Jasper Simone]

I thought everybody was in agreement that Chisora turned up unprepared, unmotivated and overweight for the Fury fight?

 

[JFT96]

I'm just going to be lazy and copy and paste what I posted on ESB. The last paragraph by the way is referring to some odd people on there who seem to think Skelton landing a couple in the first round as compelling evidence as to why Fury would win.

Anyway, I've seen more in Price that makes me think he'd beat Fury and go on to have a more successful career. His jab is more authorative and is primarily used to set up the big right hand. Fury's is more effective off the back foot to score points with IMO rather than as a way to set up combinations. That's fine vs smaller less mobile heavyweights but ineffective against a man of Price's stature I feel.


I also believe Price is more set in the style he wants to adopt. Since Butler on when his opposition has improved, he's fought in pretty much the same manner. Leading off behind the jab and using his height & reach aa well as a reactive high guard to evade punches. Taking charge of the fight on the front foot and looking for the straight right and uppercuts when the opportunity presents itself. It's pretty basic but Wladimir has shown that when you have such physical attributes in your favour vs. your opponents, basic at times is most effective. I'm not saying he's anywhere near the level of Wlad yet but he's progressing well and looking more comfortable with each fight he's having.


So basically, I think Price would win the battle if the jabs, is more sound defensively and certainly carries the greater power. Eith the hab being key for both, I'd see him being able to control the fight from there. And don't forget- Fury's the only one to have gone down as a pro(vs the quite light hitting Pajkic) so how are we to know he has the edge in the chin department. Price possesses the advantages in the key areas for me, that's why I think he'd win.

Also, it's wrong to assume that Skelton getting inside to land 3 punches or so on Price is proof that Fury would be able to get inside, where he's without doubt better, and beat up Price there. He's not nearly the same as Skelton stylistically and wouldn't be able to just bull rush Price without being on the end of his jab and right hand, which a smaller fighter is less likely to be caught by. If anything, that would be the wrong approach for him to take.

 

[dftaylor]

There's something about Fury's mentality and his recent technical improvements that makes me think he could hurt and out-hustle Price.

When he gets hurt he's always come roaring back, he was matched a lot tougher earlier on in his career, his best wins are better than Price's and he just seems to have grit. Price looks like a monster puncher, but Skelton didn't have too much trouble coming in the front door and in close I wonder how effective that power will be.

There's always the possibility that Price bangs Fury out early, but the younger man seems so much more disciplined than before. I think he has the better jab (he certainly uses it more than Price) and his lack of power means he focuses on his combinations instead of looking for one big shot.

It has the makings of a classic domestic battle.

 

[Lunny]

I'm just going to be lazy and copy and paste what I posted on ESB. The last paragraph by the way is referring to some odd people on there who seem to think Skelton landing a couple in the first round as compelling evidence as to why Fury would win.

Anyway, I've seen more in Price that makes me think he'd beat Fury and go on to have a more successful career. His jab is more authorative and is primarily used to set up the big right hand. Fury's is more effective off the back foot to score points with IMO rather than as a way to set up combinations. That's fine vs smaller less mobile heavyweights but ineffective against a man of Price's stature I feel.

Yeah Fury's definitely worked on his and now it's got more speed and a bit of pop but I agree with you on how it can be used. Price has developed that Wlad style jab that can be used as a battering ram to get you in for the right hand. Fury's not got that and seems to be developing a fast in-out flicking style of jab that scores points and causes cuts. I don't see that causing Price any problems, not unless Fury improves his footwork a lot. Even though he's the taller guy I think Fury will struggle to get past Price's jab. He'll also struggle to establish his jab as Price is pretty decent defensively against that style. So yeah the standing straight and jabbing idea would favour Price if that's how the fight went.

That probably sounded retarded but it all made sense to me!

I also believe Price is more set in the style he wants to adopt. Since Butler on when his opposition has improved, he's fought in pretty much the same manner. Leading off behind the jab and using his height & reach aa well as a reactive high guard to evade punches. Taking charge of the fight on the front foot and looking for the straight right and uppercuts when the opportunity presents itself. It's pretty basic but Wladimir has shown that when you have such physical attributes in your favour vs. your opponents, basic at times is most effective. I'm not saying he's anywhere near the level of Wlad yet but he's progressing well and looking more comfortable with each fight he's having.

Yeah agreed though that's not to say he can't adapt when needs be. He had to change up pretty quickly against Skelton on Friday and he did that very well.

So basically, I think Price would win the battle if the jabs, is more sound defensively and certainly carries the greater power. Eith the hab being key for both, I'd see him being able to control the fight from there. And don't forget- Fury's the only one to have gone down as a pro(vs the quite light hitting Pajkic) so how are we to know he has the edge in the chin department. Price possesses the advantages in the key areas for me, that's why I think he'd win.

Also, it's wrong to assume that Skelton getting inside to land 3 punches or so on Price is proof that Fury would be able to get inside, where he's without doubt better, and beat up Price there. He's not nearly the same as Skelton stylistically and wouldn't be able to just bull rush Price without being on the end of his jab and right hand, which a smaller fighter is less likely to be caught by. If anything, that would be the wrong approach for him to take.

Skelton was on great form imo. Had the exact right plan and was having some success. It's not a great win to have on his record or anything but I think I'm more impressed by Price's performance on Friday than most are.

 

[Batkilt]

I'm just going to be lazy and copy and paste what I posted on ESB. The last paragraph by the way is referring to some odd people on there who seem to think Skelton landing a couple in the first round as compelling evidence as to why Fury would win.

Anyway, I've seen more in Price that makes me think he'd beat Fury and go on to have a more successful career. His jab is more authorative and is primarily used to set up the big right hand. Fury's is more effective off the back foot to score points with IMO rather than as a way to set up combinations. That's fine vs smaller less mobile heavyweights but ineffective against a man of Price's stature I feel.

I also believe Price is more set in the style he wants to adopt. Since Butler on when his opposition has improved, he's fought in pretty much the same manner. Leading off behind the jab and using his height & reach aa well as a reactive high guard to evade punches. Taking charge of the fight on the front foot and looking for the straight right and uppercuts when the opportunity presents itself. It's pretty basic but Wladimir has shown that when you have such physical attributes in your favour vs. your opponents, basic at times is most effective. I'm not saying he's anywhere near the level of Wlad yet but he's progressing well and looking more comfortable with each fight he's having.

So basically, I think Price would win the battle if the jabs, is more sound defensively and certainly carries the greater power. Eith the hab being key for both, I'd see him being able to control the fight from there. And don't forget- Fury's the only one to have gone down as a pro(vs the quite light hitting Pajkic) so how are we to know he has the edge in the chin department. Price possesses the advantages in the key areas for me, that's why I think he'd win.

Also, it's wrong to assume that Skelton getting inside to land 3 punches or so on Price is proof that Fury would be able to get inside, where he's without doubt better, and beat up Price there. He's not nearly the same as Skelton stylistically and wouldn't be able to just bull rush Price without being on the end of his jab and right hand, which a smaller fighter is less likely to be caught by. If anything, that would be the wrong approach for him to take.

I haven't browsed ESB since I got banned, so I wasn't aware anyone was citing Skelton landing a couple on the inside as evidence that Fury would have success against Price. Are they really?

The main reason I'm a bit "meh" about comparing the two is that they're at different stages of their development. Price is more seasoned and has the amateur experience that perhaps makes up a bit for his lack of tests in the paid ranks, whereas Fury didn't reach the same heights as an amateur but is improving and still has plenty of time to improve further.

Wouldn't exactly complain if they did sign up to fight each other next summer, don't get me wrong, but I can completely see why Hennessy would rather wait until Fury has developed both as a fighter and as an attraction on Channel 5.

 

[JFT96]

Yeah Fury's definitely worked on his and now it's got more speed and a bit of pop but I agree with you on how it can be used. Price has developed that Wlad style jab that can be used as a battering ram to get you in for the right hand. Fury's not got that and seems to be developing a fast in-out flicking style of jab that scores points and causes cuts. I don't see that causing Price any problems, not unless Fury improves his footwork a lot. Even though he's the taller guy I think Fury will struggle to get past Price's jab. He'll also struggle to establish his jab as Price is pretty decent defensively against that style. So yeah the standing straight and jabbing idea would favour Price if that's how the fight went.

That probably sounded retarded but it all made sense to me!
Yeah agreed though that's not to say he can't adapt when needs be. He had to change up pretty quickly against Skelton on Friday and he did that very well.

Skelton was on great form imo. Had the exact right plan and was having some success. It's not a great win to have on his record or anything but I think I'm more impressed by Price's performance on Friday than most are.

:good no mate, all were valid points and I understand where you're coming from. This is how I see it too. Price's style might not be as flexible as Fury's but we've already seen with Wladimir that if you have the accuracy of the jab and the power in the right hand as he does, it can be mightily effective.

Now I'm not saying Price is on Wlad's level, far from it, but I don't think it's something that Fury would contend well with and for however much he dominated last night, we have to remember that it wasn't really a live opponent in there with him.

I haven't browsed ESB since I got banned, so I wasn't aware anyone was citing Skelton landing a couple on the inside as evidence that Fury would have success against Price. Are they really?

The main reason I'm a bit "meh" about comparing the two is that they're at different stages of their development. Price is more seasoned and has the amateur experience that perhaps makes up a bit for his lack of tests in the paid ranks, whereas Fury didn't reach the same heights as an amateur but is improving and still has plenty of time to improve further.

Wouldn't exactly complain if they did sign up to fight each other next summer, don't get me wrong, but I can completely see why Hennessy would rather wait until Fury has developed both as a fighter and as an attraction on Channel 5.

Well it's what a few mongy trolls on there were saying so I was trying to correct them in the original post. Shouldn't have bothered interacting with them really.

I'd love to see them fight as quickly as possible to be honest but I can't see it happening for a year at least. I'd be glad for both of them if they went and picked up a belt and then had the fight then, as it would really be huge. But it's got to happen at some point and it will be some build up I'm sure