Quality obscure boxers from times gone past
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LEONARD MORROW - Kayoed The legendary Ol Mongoose Archie Moore in 1 round
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elbows mcfadden
dunno if he is obscure, but i dont hear him talked about much.
he was the one who pioneered the cross-arm defence later used by archie moore, norton, foreman
his signature punch was missing with a hook and landing with the elbow, hence his name
he was active at lightweight 7/8 years either side of the year 1900 and he's got wins on his record over joe gans and kid laviegne...and fought sam langford, (although langford ko'd him and he was unconscious for over two minutes)
dunno if he is obscure, but i dont hear him talked about much.
he was the one who pioneered the cross-arm defence later used by archie moore, norton, foreman
his signature punch was missing with a hook and landing with the elbow, hence his name
he was active at lightweight 7/8 years either side of the year 1900 and he's got wins on his record over joe gans and kid laviegne...and fought sam langford, (although langford ko'd him and he was unconscious for over two minutes)
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horace notice.
ended his short career with a record of 16-0 with 12 ko's...forced to retire due to a detached retina.
was in the same camp as gary mason and frank bruno and some insiders said he was the best of them, although he was a small heavyweight, he could have been a great cruiserweight.
a great line of form as an indicator of how good notice might have been is analect wamba...who was 14-0 when notice beat him...wamba went on to win his next 17 fights in a row..only losing by disqualification in his next loss (against a man he beat twice quickly afterwards) and went on to win the wbc cruiser title, defend it seven times and retire as champion. (so, effectively the only man to beat him was notice)
ended his short career with a record of 16-0 with 12 ko's...forced to retire due to a detached retina.
was in the same camp as gary mason and frank bruno and some insiders said he was the best of them, although he was a small heavyweight, he could have been a great cruiserweight.
a great line of form as an indicator of how good notice might have been is analect wamba...who was 14-0 when notice beat him...wamba went on to win his next 17 fights in a row..only losing by disqualification in his next loss (against a man he beat twice quickly afterwards) and went on to win the wbc cruiser title, defend it seven times and retire as champion. (so, effectively the only man to beat him was notice)
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if i could add an amatuer here...
i am convinced this lad would have made a great pro..had a great pro style to my eyes.....he went on to become an actor, well known to many as zammo from grange hill.
he did a lot of damage to his back in a car crash and that stopped him turning pro.
here he is against the brother of paul hodkinson....see what you make of him...just before headgear..
i am convinced this lad would have made a great pro..had a great pro style to my eyes.....he went on to become an actor, well known to many as zammo from grange hill.
he did a lot of damage to his back in a car crash and that stopped him turning pro.
here he is against the brother of paul hodkinson....see what you make of him...just before headgear..
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@doug.ie great shout on notice, the guy he's fighting there is one of those Africans with an awesome moniker! I think Lotti Mwale beat Proud as well. In fact I'll throw Mwale's name in the hat; KO1 Tony Sibson, first man to beat Marvin Johnson but sadly remembered for getting annihilated by Saad and Mustafa.
Sadly, no footage of Captain Marvel or Hitler The Killer has turned up yet :lol:
Sadly, no footage of Captain Marvel or Hitler The Killer has turned up yet :lol:
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Benny Valgar was known as the french flash (born in Paris) he was an American who boxed out of New York who at one point ray arcel compared skill wise to the great Benny Leonard but without Leonard's power . Arcel in fact tells a short story in a book that while walking in new york in the seventies i think. Arcel saw Benny Leonard's brother who told Arcel about a great lightweight that was boxing in the garden and suggested that Arcel go along and have a look himself as the fighter was another Benny Valgar. The lightweight was Ken Buchanan, Arcel then says that what he saw was a very good boxer but no Benny Valgar. that for me says it all and sadly another great fighter that there is no film of
some sources spell it Valgar and some as Valger
some sources spell it Valgar and some as Valger
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