[Chatty]

1. Sugar Ray Leonard
2. Esteban De Jesus II
3. Ken Buchanan
4. Esteban De Jesus III
5. Iran Barkley
6. Carlos Palomino
7. Hiroshi Kobayashi
8. Ernesto Marcel
9. Davey Moore
10. Pipino Cuevas
11. Gits Ishimatsu
12. Saoul Mamby
13. Ray Lampkin
14. Lou Bizzaro
15. Hector Thompson

 

[Vano-irons]

Im glad you have Palomino high. Underrated win for Duran, as is Marcel. If have both above Kobeyashi

Id maybe have De Jesus 3 a little lower, behind Barkley. But im nitpicking.

Its a very good list. It really highlights just how great Duran was

 

[Chatty]

Marcel would be higher if it wasn't for a poor ending to the fight. It could have went on and t was fairly close so its a shame really.

 

[Chatty]

bump

 

[Bladerunner]

1- Sugar Ray Leonard
2- Ken Buchanan
3- DeJesus II
4- Marcel
5- Barkley
6- D.Moore
7- Dejesus III
8- Palomino
9- Ishimatzu
10- Cuevas
11- V.Fernandez
12- S.Mamby
13- Kobayashi
14- J.Castro
15- Minchillo

 

[The Undefeated Gaul]

1. Sugar Ray Leonard
2. Esteban De Jesus II
3. Ken Buchanan
4. Esteban De Jesus III
5. Iran Barkley
6. Carlos Palomino
7. Hiroshi Kobayashi
8. Ernesto Marcel
9. Davey Moore
10. Pipino Cuevas
11. Gits Ishimatsu
12. Saoul Mamby
13. Ray Lampkin
14. Lou Bizzaro
15. Hector Thompson

Why do you have Ernesto Marcel so low? He's a monster ATG who beat Caraballo prior to their fight.

Ok just read on..you answered the question.

Nevertheless, to get the upperhand on a great fighter in a close fight is a greater win than against a very good fighter IMO.

I just rate Marcel extremely high.

 

[The Undefeated Gaul]

Nevertheless, a very good list.

 

[Chatty]

Why do you have Ernesto Marcel so low? He's a monster ATG who beat Caraballo prior to their fight.

Its cause of the inconclusive ending, the fight was cut short and it was very close. I just thought it was a really poor stoppage and took away it being a great victory. If the stoppage had been legit or it had continued and he'd won on points as I expected he would have it would have been better imo.

 

[Bill Butcher]

Its cause of the inconclusive ending, the fight was cut short and it was very close. I just thought it was a really poor stoppage and took away it being a great victory. If the stoppage had been legit or it had continued and he'd won on points as I expected he would have it would have been better imo.

That was out of Duran`s hands though, he still did his thing in the actual fight. A poor decision by a ref shouldn't take away/add to the performance of the fighter whatsoever.

 

[Chatty]

That was out of Duran`s hands though, he still did his thing in the actual fight. A poor decision by a ref shouldn't take away/add to the performance of the fighter whatsoever.

I think it does tbh, sure its not fair on the fighter but its also not fair on the fighter who lost either. i still ranked it rather high but I felt his other victories were more dominant and that put them ahead whereas in this one Marcel still could have won but the bout was cut short. if he had been dominating like the way I had him a long way ahead against Buchanan it may not have been an issue but I only had this fight but a round (i think).

 

[PityTheFool]

1. Sugar Ray Leonard
2. Esteban De Jesus II
3. Ken Buchanan
4. Esteban De Jesus III
5. Iran Barkley
6. Carlos Palomino
7. Hiroshi Kobayashi
8. Ernesto Marcel
9. Davey Moore
10. Pipino Cuevas
11. Gits Ishimatsu
12. Saoul Mamby
13. Ray Lampkin
14. Lou Bizzaro
15. Hector Thompson

Excellent list Chatty.Only thing is I'd have Moore slightly higher given the enormity of the upset.

 

[O59]

Very accurate, only thing I'd do is move Marcel above Kobayashi but as you mentioned it was a very close bout whereas Roberto ran through Kobayashi.

 

[Bill Butcher]

I think it does tbh, sure its not fair on the fighter but its also not fair on the fighter who lost either. i still ranked it rather high but I felt his other victories were more dominant and that put them ahead whereas in this one Marcel still could have won but the bout was cut short. if he had been dominating like the way I had him a long way ahead against Buchanan it may not have been an issue but I only had this fight but a round (i think).

Its 1 Duran fight I`ve never actually watched in full, I always assumed judging by the way people spoke of the fight that it was a clear win for Duran... I`ll probably check it out tonight on youtube.

 

[Bladerunner]

Kobayashi i way too high he was past his best coming of a loss and he never fought again he shouldnt be ahead of Moore or Marcel nor should he be ahead of Ishimatzu a guy that after Duran beat went on to win the WBC belt against Rodolfo Gonzalez and made five defenses of the title including a win over Ken Buchanan IMO its probably Duran's most underrated win and i would also had it ahead of Cuevas who by the time of the Duran fight hadnt fought in two years and was clearly past his best.

Bizarro was an awful fighter and shouldnt be nowhere near that list he never beat anyone of note before or after facing Duran and his performance against Duran was pathetic to say the least all he did was run the entire fight and still ended up taking a beating in the end, his performance ranks alongside Morrade Hakar's performance against Hopkins as one of the worse title challenges i have ever seen.

Another guy who i think should be in that list is Vilomar Fernandez another one of Duran's underrated wins. Fernandez was one of the best spoilers in the lightweight division and a guy who gave a hard time to almost everyone he faced and he went on to beat the great Alexis Arguello the year after Duran beat him.

Just my two cents.