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RIP*****Teofilo Stevenson

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Legendary Cuban Teofilo Stevenson has died, it has been announced. He was 60 and had suffered a heart attack.

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Before anyone comes in talking shit, no he wouldn't have given the top pro's of his day hassle. He could've blossom into a great pro', but he was essentially an experienced man twatting boys.

Brilliant at it, and love to watch him fight. R.I.P
Love the right hand that sent John Tate staggering across the ring.

Tate of course, was dodgy punch resistance wise. Dunno' whether it with Stevenson that fucked with his equilibrium or not but what a shot.

Let's not forget that Russian stopped Stevenson twice. His 3 medals were truly brilliant stuff though.

I'll still take Papp as the greatest Amateur though :good
He might well fuck up the pro's of this day ;)

In all honesty, I'd have expected to make a good convert. Smaller gloves would mean he'd be even more a beast, but the fighters were better, even more experienced (in their game) and I have heard a few times he was sparked so, not immortal (who was in this division though?!)

I could probably find some guys I'd definitely favour him to beat if he had a Muangsurin-esque schedule. But stylistically Ali would be terrible for him, at least ;) And in the early 80s, Holmes would box rings around him, even if Stevenson did hurt him before he went down himself :yep

I love the guy, just don't like the 'if he'd turned over he'd be the G.O.A.T' that you occasionally hear.
This isn't me exaggerating because he's passed away, but he would tear through the heavyweights of this era, that's not to say he would tear through Wlad and Vitali, Wlad and Vitali are quality, but the current crop in general, he'd embarrass them.
That's the way I see it. Guys like Pulev and Povetkin made a fairly comfortable switch into the pro's from the amateurs (off the top of my head)

Stevenson's amateur era>>>This.

Ergo, he'd be pretty well prepared to turn over against this basic crop.

Against the cream of it? Not IMO.

But Arreola? Dimitrienko? Tyson Fury? He'd smash 'em IMO, going on the aesthetic qualities of his style and that his opponents displayed.

Thing is, Stevenson was nearly always the bigger man back then (height wise) be interesting to see him in with the taller guys. I'm not sure the heavier contenders are any better for it, so I'd pick him to spark the flabby ones as well.

Fact is the Olympians of many era's before often jumped in at the deep end and survived. I'd expect Stevenson to do as well as a 'Skeeter' McClure if he took on a fast track schedule. He was better than Rademacher, but when people wanted Stevenson to go over there wasn't a Floyd Patterson at the helm (not a slight on Floyd, I'm a massive fan but Rademacher wouldn't likely sit many heavyweight champs on their arse) so I'd say even to be competitive to that degree is hard to fathom.

Steadily stepping it up in 8-10 fights, as Leon Spinks did? If he did it in that timeframe, there's more chance, after '80 or '84, I can't pick him with any great conviction against the many talented contenders of Holmes' era, and no doubt Stevenson would be offered to Tyson as a great name and demolished.

I'm rambling (what a surprise) but what I'm saying is, he could have been successful, but not in the years he actually competed in :good
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haha, you're not rambling lad. Also, yeah, that's a fair assessment. I don't think it's outrageous to speculate on what kind of a pro he could have been though in terms of maybe going beyond what your assessment has limited him to. I don't know like, I'm not saying he would be the best of his era, I think he'd be a quality addition though to say the least. I never thought he was solely about dimensions, which to me is always secondary to ability, it's way I have no gripes claiming that Frazier would stop Wlad (fuck off luf).

But yeah, good post. I'm rambling myself here.
BOLD Agree, and thought about that originally. Going off a stereotypical 'seasoned amateur' progression seemed easier to speculate on, less variables if that makes sense :good
LINED Again, agree 100% No reason to think he couldn't get up there, John Tate did (albeit briefly before falling down) ;)

As for dimensions, reminds me a bit of a Heavyweight Ricardo Lopez, styleswise anyway. At Heavyweight that'd be enough for sporadic success at least against the motley crew that assembled at different stages of his success.

Which Gold medal winning Stevenson was most capable of turning over do we think? A younger one they MIGHT develop a bit slower, maybe he fights Floyd Patterson after he's lost to Ali a second time(?), Wepner, Bugner and Ellis? Eventually building to a fight with Ali, Foreman, Frazier in the mid-70s?

'76 Stevenson, hitting his prime, taking on the likes of Young, Norton and fading Ali? Perfect fight for him: Bobick rated in top five at end of 77 :yep

Or a more experienced one jumping in when Larry Holmes was fighting fairly inexperienced but talented undefeated contenders with less than 20 fights? 'Tex' Cobb would be a perfect gauge of his potential ;)

Yeah, he'd be at least an exciting addition if he'd turned over at any one point.
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Again, I edited heavily SORRY MAYNE! I realised I hadn't underlined....then realised I had a lot more to say :thumbsup
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