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Schaefer: Khan-Broner a serious possibilty

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WBC lightweight champion Adrien Broner's decision to move up to welterweight has opened up a possible bout with Amir Khan, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer has hinted.

Undefeated Broner will move up two weight classes to face WBA welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi at 147lbs on June 22 in New York, Golden Boy announced on Thursday.

With Khan tied up in a bout with Julio Diaz, and other top light-welterweights such as Zab Judah and Lamont Peterson also involved in upcoming fights, Broner made the decision to rise to the welterweight class.
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Khan has the advantage in movement here, in that he actually has the ability to, plus he has quicker hands, I would actually favour Amir here, he should really push for this rather than waiting for Matthysse
Nah your dreaming.

Khans defence is awful, and he can't stick to a gameplan, Broner would sucker him in and knock him out with solid, accurate counters.
Khan's defence relies solely on using quick feet to get in and out or to move around the ring, Broner has next to zero movement of foot, if there's on fighter Khan's "defence" would actually be a benefit against it's Broner. Khan UD12 in Calzaghe-Lacy style imo. Unless teaming up with Hunter is all a big ploy to get him to rely on an inside game that will never work as he's not strong and has a glass jaw in order to sacrifice him to Broner of course
Khan is better at running aimlessly around the ring yes.

Handspeed, i'll grant you that but he's nowhere near as effective with what he has, rather he just throws barrages with zero accuracy.
He's better at movement full stop, including but not limited to running round the ring :lol: He wont have to be accurate, people act like he hasnt been at world level, his physical gift of blistering speed and amateur in-out with combos style may be basic, but it works against certain fighters very well, Broner's style would not suit imo, styles make fights and if I was Khan I would push for this big time
Admittedly he could get caught with a Garcia style timed shot against someone whos planted their feet and just got a measure of him, but that could hapen against anyone, and I doubt Broner will be a big puncher at welter, so Khan may as well roll the dice here

I mean seriously.

Khan has never Lacy'd anyone and Broner is the more skilled fighter here.

If I see DRAMATIC improvements in Khan on saturday night, then i'll reconsider my stance, I don't hate the guy
I was being dramatic there on purpose, but tbh he has a good chance of winning wide. Broner is a very good fighter, perhaps better, perhaps not, but he has very few advantages here, he's a stand still counter-puncher who is slow and has relied on size advantage to KO opponents. He could KO Khan Garcia style if he times him and Khan gets cocky and hasnt learnt his lesson (distinct possibility) but Khan's style to me would be favourable here (if he keeps his hands up), improving to a Hunter style will not help Khan, especially not against Broner who will like a worse, weaker, more fragile version of Andre Ward trying to maul on the inside with him. Khan would be better off throwing shitloads of combos whilst moving constantly or just follow DPDL's blueprint of "box and move"

Sure Khan could get knocked out, but he could against anyone, the risk is the same as ever but the reward is great if he wins, he should push for this
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Yeah, fighters that don't punch with him when he stops running for a few seconds and throws. That's not Broner.

If a stationary, slow Danny Garcia can spark Khan out, then Broner certainly can.
But if he moves Broners on a ten second delay to catch up with him, the risk is there sure, but he's been in with bigger punchers and got through, he may as well go for this fight.

Broner is more stationary than Garcia
Great fight between two defensive genius'
2nd best offensive fighter on the planet :deal
You don't need to be a big puncher to knock Khan out of his stride. Khan-Broner would lead to Amir's third loss, probably inside distance if you ask me. I realize that no one did, but I've said it now. I sort of like Khan, but he just isn't as good as he thinks he is, and is not good enough to trouble Broner. Khan would look flashily fast for a round or two, then Broner would make the necessary adjustments then make Khan look profoundly ordinary before stopping him.
Khan is fragile and anyone can knock him out, but not everyone does. If he picked fights on the basis of whether there was a good chance of being knocked out, he wouldn't fight. If I was him I'd love to fight a fighter like Broner who basically can't move. Sure he could be timed and stopped, but I'd rather take the gamble and go in against Broner where a win actually makes me "pound for pound" (according to The Ring), than wait for my shot at Matthysse where a knockout is the closest thing to a certainty in this universe.
Khans problem is he has speed and nothing else

He never developed an all round game to go with it, if he did he'd be a fantastic fighter.
This is true, but against Broner I'd hope he'd just use his pure speed, trying to be clever would result in him being out-thought (not for the first time) and stopped, just flurry and run his way to victory here :lol:
I agree with you (well, apart from the Broner can't move part!), but I just think Khan needs to go for a softer option than both Matthysse OR Broner.
It's like his feet are set in the ring! :lol: ;)

Well if he does that then I would assume his aspirations have settled down. Beating Broner would make him a bona fide star and get him a shot at Floyd for incredible money, and is doable in my opinion. Sure, he could be timed and stopped but it's always a risk, he has to take the gamble and just try and use his speed of hand and foot to just rack up points and avoid any type of fight. Matthysse is not a gamble, the result is a sure thing, if bookies are taking money on a Matthysse stoppage there, even at 1/100 on, it's a licence to print money :lol:
Just to be clear, I agree with you on Broner's movement up until now, I just think he could move more if he needed to. He has fought that way so far as he thinks it looks more impressive and dominant, he's fighting to a level. He hasn't messed with it yet as he has not needed to. If I were Khan I'd steer clear, as losing won't get him the Floyd fight, and he doesn't need another loss, he's not a kid any more. But I see what you're saying, absolutely.

And yes, I'd mortgage my house if he got in with Mathysse!
He needed it against Ponce and it wasn't there, for large periods he looked like he didn't know how to deal with someone content to hit and move. I think for Khan this is his best shot, Broner hasn't faced someone with the speed of Khan, it may take him a while to adjust, and if Khan can just give his best effort to avoid a fight breaking out for 12 rounds, he could flurry and move his way to victory here in my opinion. Trying to copy Ward would be a disaster as Broner would relish a skinny glass-jawed Khan trying to get inside and maul him, just tap and move! He's not going to get the Floyd fight now (unless he fights and beats Berto who is the holder of the key apparently), if he'd beaten Garcia he'd have got it, but he's back at square one and is without options, just gamble and go for Broner or accept it and maybe look at Kell Brook as a big-ish money option
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He's no more or less likely to win imo, he's still got a bad chin and still has great handspeed, i still think risk reward is in his favour, still take this and hope he can touch and run his way to a points win
I don't agree on risk-reward - a fourth loss would be pretty bad for Khan's career, particularly as many see Broner as hyped, not having fought top, big guys, and not necessarily the new Mayweather some claim. If Amir wins, all the same criticisms of Broner (which will be reinforced if he loses to Khan and his flaws) cheapen the achievement.
ye true, but a fourth loss will come, does he want it to come against a Diaz type opponent or for big money against Broner where a win will, rightly or wrongly, put him amongst pound-for-pound names and a shot at Mayweather will come. It's that or he gets sacrificed to Matthysse, which is criminal
Does anyone think Khan's punch resistance has gone? (serious) I mean obviously never great, but he took some big heavy shots against Garcia, and didn't look at all solid against Diaz
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