Schaefer: Khan-Broner a serious possibilty

JamieC said:

He's no more or less likely to win imo, he's still got a bad chin and still has great handspeed, i still think risk reward is in his favour, still take this and hope he can touch and run his way to a points win

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I don't agree on risk-reward - a fourth loss would be pretty bad for Khan's career, particularly as many see Broner as hyped, not having fought top, big guys, and not necessarily the new Mayweather some claim. If Amir wins, all the same criticisms of Broner (which will be reinforced if he loses to Khan and his flaws) cheapen the achievement.

SimonTemplar said:

I don't agree on risk-reward - a fourth loss would be pretty bad for Khan's career, particularly as many see Broner as hyped, not having fought top, big guys, and not necessarily the new Mayweather some claim. If Amir wins, all the same criticisms of Broner (which will be reinforced if he loses to Khan and his flaws) cheapen the achievement.

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ye true, but a fourth loss will come, does he want it to come against a Diaz type opponent or for big money against Broner where a win will, rightly or wrongly, put him amongst pound-for-pound names and a shot at Mayweather will come. It's that or he gets sacrificed to Matthysse, which is criminal

Does anyone think Khan's punch resistance has gone? (serious) I mean obviously never great, but he took some big heavy shots against Garcia, and didn't look at all solid against Diaz

JamieC said:

ye true, but a fourth loss will come, does he want it to come against a Diaz type opponent or for big money against Broner where a win will, rightly or wrongly, put him amongst pound-for-pound names and a shot at Mayweather will come. It's that or he gets sacrificed to Matthysse, which is criminal

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It will come, yes, but Broner isn't far enough above Diaz in enough people's eyes to make it worth it, imho. Broner might yet come unstuck at a higher level. He needs someone proven to have come through tough wars to show that he can mix it in that sort of fight. I don't think we've seen the last year where Khan fights twice and loses them both, to be honest.

JamieC said:

Does anyone think Khan's punch resistance has gone? (serious) I mean obviously never great, but he took some big heavy shots against Garcia, and didn't look at all solid against Diaz

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Yes, I do. He looked there for the taking at times. I was worried about Khan's own cumulative power, too, tbh - Diaz has been stopped five times in the past, yet was barely troubled by the vast majority of what Khan threw. I was just very disappointed in Khan, I think we have already seen his best.

JamieC said:

Does anyone think Khan's punch resistance has gone? (serious) I mean obviously never great, but he took some big heavy shots against Garcia, and didn't look at all solid against Diaz

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I do, he was getting hurt by everything Diaz landed basically, and Diaz isn't a huge puncher.

In the past Khan has taken decent shots from Lamont, Kotelnik and even Maidana at times, and been ok.

I think the little resistance he did have, is gone. Honestly he looked to me like a shot fighter, and I know he's only 26, but it happens.

After watching the Diaz fight I don't think Khan can win this, i think he's done on the world stage, he'll get one more big fight which he'll most likely lose via Ko and then he'll either retire or drop down the levels.

I think he gets the Garcia or Peterson rematch next (if he beats Matthysse). If Matthysse wins they will duck out of sticking him in with Garcia imo and do a Garcia-Khan and Matthysse-whoever double card, that way they get one more fight out of their meal tickets either way.

If Khan wins he'll move up and fight either Mayweather or Brook and that'll be the plan.

Matthysse will be avoided like the plague, especially if he beat Peterson, a KO would probably be the worse thing he could do imo unfortunately.

Broner will probably fight Guerrero next imo.

You know who isn't a puncher, Devon Alexander. I certainly think the Khan under Roach would have a good chance of winning that fight but under Hunter he seems a bit too ponderous. You might think it sounds crazy but when Ward fights, I get the impression he's thinking about his work before he engages and consequently there's variation and guile whereas Khan on saturday seemed to be simply waiting to engage and following with his typical flurries...