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· Sugalowda!
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VASYL LOMACHENKO'S PRO CAREER STARTS NOW!

All righty, so not that Lomachenko and his most loyal fans have been introduced to professional boxing, this great talent's pro career starts NOW, and it's gonna be an excellent one!

He's 7-1 as a pro (WSOB regulations comply with pro rules and should be counted), and he's got fed by the right amount of gamesmanship to start taking it more seriously. Salido fought the PERFECT anti-amateur fight: physical advantage, constant pressure, swarming the body, wide shots around the guard, tag the belt line, hit upon holding and expose the lack of inside game. These are the things Loma couldn't dealt with:
- fighting back up close or properly clinching, fighting out of clinches, effectively pushing, using his elbows etc.
- complain at the referee for low blows, act as if Siri's was rubbing his junk
- go around Salido's guard with hooks and uppercuts when coming in, feed him with hard body blows
- check hooks at corners, rope-a-dope and short hooks on the ropes
- side step, bounce around or move into Salido's range to take away the body work
- mix up head-body, straight-wide, quick-heavy shots, throw combos
- manage the output based on the opponent's activity

We should commend Vasyl for winning about 4 rounds in a world title fight this early and almost getting the stoppage, but there were far too many flaws exposed to get straight back into the title mix, and far too few answers by the corner to keep them - no matter of the longtime chemistry, Lomachenko needs a seasoned pro, cause that's who's gonna get him into gamesmanship. Vasyl also needs to start reading his opponents better, figure out the angles and start feeding the aggressor with heavy counters, something that was totally missing on Saturday. He also needs to learn to make a statement early, grab hold of the pacing and distance and let him decide how much gamesmanship is allowed. These will come with the pro fights and hundreds of rounds of quality sparring, but needs to be done with a pro corner.

Either way, the future is now, and he better start getting into it. Much to learn, you still have.
 

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If it's registered amateurs fighting registered amateurs as a stop-gap between amateur and pro to season them more, I'll all for it.

I think the AIBA will tie them into silly contracts though to keep their best fighters. So overall, not keen on the scheme at all.
 

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Just for anyone new to the party, Lomachenko never signed up for that APB crap. He is turning full professional, very soon.
 

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Just for anyone new to the party, Lomachenko never signed up for that APB crap. He is turning full professional, very soon.
About time. He still shouldn't rush a championship fight. Start with 8 rounders, walk the Gamboa/Rigo path of tough fights, but even they ran into some trouble along the way, so there is no reason to jump the gun.
 

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Gary Russell jr.

Actually nah... should probably fight a world ranked guy
 

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I believe he won´t though....probably some unknown fighter, not a bum, but a regular borderline journeyman, perhaps.
They're talking about facing a world ranked guy over 10 rounds for his debut. I would hope that it's a decent opponent considering the plan is to fight for a world title in his second bout.
 

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They're talking about facing a world ranked guy over 10 rounds for his debut. I would hope that it's a decent opponent considering the plan is to fight for a world title in his second bout.
A world ranked guy for who ? WBC have the likes of Jayson Velez, Ronny Rios or Robinson Castellanos in their top 10, I mean, these guys are okay, but most people would call them jorneymen.....
 

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From the little I know about the WSB it looks like a great platform to pitch successful olympians against one another after the event as well as an oppotunity to maintain and develop casual interest in amateurs. my only concern is about any complications that might arise from a contract with AIBA. Every contender has to be signed with them right?
 

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A world ranked guy for who ? WBC have the likes of Jayson Velez, Ronny Rios or Robinson Castellanos in their top 10, I mean, these guys are okay, but most people would call them jorneymen.....
That's true. I hope to see him against a durable guy who can really work and stand up to some punishment over 10 rounds. I wouldn't mind seeing him against that Ramirez guy he was rumoured to be facing in his debut.
 

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From the little I know about the WSB it looks like a great platform to pitch successful olympians against one another after the event as well as oppotunity to maintain and develop casual interest in amateurs. my only concern is about any complications that might arise from a contract with AIBA. Every contender has to be signed with them right?
They sign up to fight in the WSB for a season, it's completely separate from the amateur game. It's just another way for amateurs to make some good cash fighting in semi-pro fights. There's no obligation to participate.
 

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They sign up to fight in the WSB for a season, it's completely separate from the amateur game. It's just another way for amateurs to make some good cash fighting in semi-pro fights. There's no obligation to participate.
Thanks for the clarification. That it's separate from the amateurs but not full professional is what I like about it. For the fan, as opposed to the boxer, it's not completely separate from the amateurs though. It's a very accessible hybrid which is why I think it will become very popular. it's only been going for several years hasn't it?
 
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