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Its the old question though Noon. Is it good that he's overcoming problems or is it bad he's having problems?

Usually I'd go with the former but Fury seems to have problems with guys that Price would banjo. Just MHO obviously.
 

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I agree with Gaz on this one

I picked Fury because he has shown he can overcome problems, Price may well be able to but his level of opposition has been too low IMO.
For me, this argument has no substance to it. I don't see how Fury's struggles with domestic level lumps puts him in a stronger position than Price. Of course, like we saw with Frampton on Saturday, you need learning, development fights along the way but the likes of McDermott & Pajkic shouldn't be worrying a top prospect IMO. If we're looking at a Price-Fury fight specifically, I don't see having more experience in coming through battles as being too important. The superior skill and power of Price like Gaz has alluded to will be far more significant.
 

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I get why Price is favourite and all but I actually have a really strong feeling that Fury would win. Just something about the way they match up. Doesn't look like it'll get made for a long while yet though sadly.
 

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I've seen quite a few posts picking on Fury's chin and his power. I'm not feeling either of those are issues. I don't even understand the slating his power. I think he has very good power and I don't think his chin has proven poor either, although it's not been tested by one of the bangers of the top twenty, obviously. And I definitely agree he's more battle-tested than Price in the pro ranks. All that said, if I had a gun to my head, I'd lean toward Price by stoppage. I think the guy's got incredible power and the size, ability and determination to land it. I'm not saying he'll be a great heavyweight, but there's something about this guy that makes me believe he's the destroyer that will make a genuinely intriguing contender of this new crop of guys. I don't think the division is poor on prospect talent with Price, Fury, Jennings, Glazkov, Ortiz and Pulev. But, I do want to see them fighting each other to prove the best contenders, like Price VS Fury. That said, I have no real belief this fight is going to take place unless they both lose in a championship bid in the next year or two. Because that's not the business we seem to be in, these days, making strong contenders prove themselves. We're in the business of 0-nursing to a payday and that means Fury/Cunningham, if all goes well, Fury/Klitschko or Fury/Chisora II before Fury/Klitschko and Price/Thompson, and if all goes well Price/Grant and Price/Charr, then Price/Klitschko. That's more in keeping with how things are done now, unfortunately. Not that any one of those fights wouldn't be sensible. Just that the better ones like Fury/Price would be so unlikely.
 

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I actually think both Price and Fury are more likely to fight each other than a Klitschko any time soon. Vitali is likely to finally retire soon then you're left with only Wlad and he doesn't give out title shots willy nilly. He fights once, twice, maybe thrice a year at best and the options he'll give out to them won't be great. In terms of money and future options, they'd probably be much better off fighting each other and they'd also each have more chance of winning too.

Fury looks like he's trying to go down the WBC route to milk a title and I can see Price picking up some other crappy title that means fuck all. They still won't fight anyone truly elite until 2015 at best IMO.
 

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It's Price all week for me. Price has been looking dominant, strong, seriously barely even being troubled by anyone, and each of his opponents has been an improvement, a slight step up, he's moving in the right direction. Fury has fought higher profile opponents, but that doesn't mean that they're all as good as the perception, to my mind. Rogan was badly shot and Fury just mucked about with his stance etc., treated it like a sparring session. He looked good, but against nothing and it bore little relation to his other fights. Vinny Madalone looked like a mismatch against a bum to anyone who had never heard of him - beating up a small, old man doesn't mean anything even if people have heard of him. He did Chisora on points when he looked so fat and disinterested it was really an invitation to put it on him - Fury didn't. He did put it on the entirely unheralded Nevin Pajic (sp!) and got dropped for his trouble - Price would have just flattened him. And let's be honest - Fury lost the first McDermott fight, he just did. That six point margin in his favour was one of the most disgraceful scores I have ever seen, up there with Ottke-Reid. Then there's the footage of him punching himself in the face, and gassing repeatedly in the first two or three rounds of many of his fights (eg. McDermott). Okay, he has fixed that now (although will be interesting to see him in with someone who makes him work, personally I was gutted that 'The Kingpin' seemed to think that the sole point of boxing is to avoid getting knocked out), but Price never went through that, he has never looked like the basics like being fit enough to get through the fight were an issue.

I sort of like Fury - although I think he is trying to cherry pick his way to a world title shot too much, and has sadly not backed up his mouth in the past year - but for me this one is obvious. Fury has cut corners, showed all sorts of flaws and fought high-profile instead of high-skill/danger opposition. Price might not have the show and the mouth, but he has steadily stepped up the opposition, he has two belts he really doesn't look like losing, he doesn't show particular weaknesses and his power, aggression and killer instinct look like a nightmare tailor-made for taking Fury's head off. It's the fight I most want to see, bar none (a few years too late for Floyd-Pac), but I don't even think this would be particularly competitive unless Price walked onto one in the opening round. From round two on, Fury gets hurt, pushed back and dropped. Brutally.
 

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You can't say Fury is trying to cherry pick his way to a title , he's fought much better opposition at every point, and talk of Cunningham next. Price should fight Chisora soon, as he is better than any previous opponent.
 

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You can't say Fury is trying to cherry pick his way to a title , he's fought much better opposition at every point, and talk of Cunningham next. Price should fight Chisora soon, as he is better than any previous opponent.
I can say that, I just did. He got lucky that Chisora didn't get up for the fight. In terms of his other opponents they are much bigger in terms of name recognition but there's little else to most of them. Price has not been screaming about Klitschkos or being ready for a world title shot, whereas Fury has been droning on about it for ages as if he's the second Coming. He claimed that he was not defending the belts against Price because he was moving towards a world title shot, then fought Martin Rogan. Johnson should use the nickname that some wag on here gave him - Safety Pin - so was the best combination of ranking/reputation/limited threat available. The other opponents have been a joke, in the context of his claims to be ready to fight for the unified title. Price, on the other hand, has taken on a range of steady, domestic opposition, stepping it up a little over time, and still claims to be over a year from being ready. I did not say that his opposition was vastly better than Fury's. I said that in the context of his claims and his stated readiness for the title shot, Fury has taken the safest route to the a credible claim at a shot. He wanted to fasttrack himself by going for name recognition. But seriously, Johnson was awful, the 2012 Madalone should lose to the entire top 20 and Chisora let him off the hook by not training. And that's the best three. He lost to McDermott, let's not forget. His team's matchmaking skills are phenomenal, in terms of selling the idea of him being some dominant force on the global stage. I'm not saying he's not going to get there, but we can find precious little evidence based on the fights he has had - I'd beat several of them, and I'm only a 6'1'' Cruiserweight.

I agree entirely that a focussed, prepared Chisora is a step up on any of Price's previous opponents, but then he'd also be a step up on any of Fury's previous opponents. The Chisora who fought Klitschko would give Fury fits and then stop him.

Sure, Cunningham is a good fight if it happens. But it's his first.

Thompson next for Price sits happily against anything Fury has done, particularly given that Price is not hollering for a title shot.
 

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About a year ago I was 100% for Price but I think in the past year Fury has improved a considerable amount. It's not such an easy pick anymore but I'll still go with Price. I suppose we'll know a little bit more after the Thompson fight.
 
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