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Wembley now firming as the venue for April 29 but Usyk said to be unhappy with less than 50%. Probably a reasonable expectation when he holds most of the belts.
Tyson Fury vs Usyk for 2023?
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There is less than 1% of the boxing community that sees Usyk as The heavyweight Champion of the world, that's Tyson Fury.
Should be 60/40 or 55/45 Fury, I'm also pretty sure Fury is the larger draw, which is also a big factor.
Being the linear champion and bigger draw >holding more belts, in my opinion
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Time must be running out for this fight to happen on April 29. It is only about 8 weeks away and the fight still isn't signed.
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Fury ain't gonna fight him.
His mentally fragile ass realized Usyk isn't afraid of him.
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Seems like the fight's a done deal at a 70/30 split for Fury on April 29th at Wembley.
www.bbc.co.uk
We can say he's the bigger draw and possibly that he's the "real" HW champion but there's no shot he's worth 70% of the split, fuck that!
Even the claim Fury is the real champ is dubious... why, because he beat Wlad years ago so is considered lineal?
He beat a guy who held the WBC belt hostage for years whereas Usyk beat the guy considered to be the man in the division at that time, who also held a win over Wlad.
I'm a fan of Fury but his bullshit lately has annoyed me, all this drama getting the fight made, some of the stuff he's said trying to act like Usyk was the roadblock while he takes on pointless payday fights against Chisora and demands 70/30 splits, downplaying the challenge because of size difference as if that somehow renders the fight pointless... even using Usyks nationality as the basis of some of his jibes at him, given what's happening in the world and how that plays to the audience is fucking retarded.
I'm in Camp Usyk for this one, fuck him.
'Agreement' reached between Fury and Usyk
The World Boxing Association says it has received confirmation of an "agreement" between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk's teams for their undisputed heavyweight fight.
www.bbc.co.uk
We can say he's the bigger draw and possibly that he's the "real" HW champion but there's no shot he's worth 70% of the split, fuck that!
Even the claim Fury is the real champ is dubious... why, because he beat Wlad years ago so is considered lineal?
He beat a guy who held the WBC belt hostage for years whereas Usyk beat the guy considered to be the man in the division at that time, who also held a win over Wlad.
I'm a fan of Fury but his bullshit lately has annoyed me, all this drama getting the fight made, some of the stuff he's said trying to act like Usyk was the roadblock while he takes on pointless payday fights against Chisora and demands 70/30 splits, downplaying the challenge because of size difference as if that somehow renders the fight pointless... even using Usyks nationality as the basis of some of his jibes at him, given what's happening in the world and how that plays to the audience is fucking retarded.
I'm in Camp Usyk for this one, fuck him.
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At first I was going to disagree with you, since I think Fury is the bigger draw simply due to his flamboyant personailty. However, your argument is valid.Seems like the fight's a done deal at a 70/30 split for Fury on April 29th at Wembley.
'Agreement' reached between Fury and Usyk
The World Boxing Association says it has received confirmation of an "agreement" between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk's teams for their undisputed heavyweight fight.
We can say he's the bigger draw and possibly that he's the "real" HW champion but there's no shot he's worth 70% of the split, fuck that!
Even the claim Fury is the real champ is dubious... why, because he beat Wlad years ago so is considered lineal?
He beat a guy who held the WBC belt hostage for years whereas Usyk beat the guy considered to be the man in the division at that time, who also held a win over Wlad.
...... I'm in Camp Usyk for this one, fuck him.
PLUS, while Fury is arguably more popular / held in higher regard in the UK, and probably also in the USA, Usyk is da' MAN in most of the rest of the world.
It should have been 50 / 50.
Still, at the same time, I bet Usyk personally doesn't give fk about the money. He just want to prove himself against the best opponents possible.
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Seems like the fight's a done deal at a 70/30 split for Fury on April 29th at Wembley.
'Agreement' reached between Fury and Usyk
The World Boxing Association says it has received confirmation of an "agreement" between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk's teams for their undisputed heavyweight fight.
We can say he's the bigger draw and possibly that he's the "real" HW champion but there's no shot he's worth 70% of the split, fuck that!
Even the claim Fury is the real champ is dubious... why, because he beat Wlad years ago so is considered lineal?
He beat a guy who held the WBC belt hostage for years whereas Usyk beat the guy considered to be the man in the division at that time, who also held a win over Wlad.
I'm a fan of Fury but his bullshit lately has annoyed me, all this drama getting the fight made, some of the stuff he's said trying to act like Usyk was the roadblock while he takes on pointless payday fights against Chisora and demands 70/30 splits, downplaying the challenge because of size difference as if that somehow renders the fight pointless... even using Usyks nationality as the basis of some of his jibes at him, given what's happening in the world and how that plays to the audience is fucking retarded.
I'm in Camp Usyk for this one, fuck him.
I don't understand the 70/30 split. Just a few months ago Fury was willing to fight Joshua with a 50/50 split if I remember correctly, and Joshua held no titles having lost to Usyk twice.
For that insult alone I'd love to see Usyk win, but he won't. Fury is just too big and awkward for Usyk.
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No one but chicks who wanted to fuck him and maybe his mom (and i guess apparently you) considered AJ "the man" at heavyweight when Usyk beat him.Seems like the fight's a done deal at a 70/30 split for Fury on April 29th at Wembley.
'Agreement' reached between Fury and Usyk
The World Boxing Association says it has received confirmation of an "agreement" between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk's teams for their undisputed heavyweight fight.
We can say he's the bigger draw and possibly that he's the "real" HW champion but there's no shot he's worth 70% of the split, fuck that!
Even the claim Fury is the real champ is dubious... why, because he beat Wlad years ago so is considered lineal?
He beat a guy who held the WBC belt hostage for years whereas Usyk beat the guy considered to be the man in the division at that time, who also held a win over Wlad.
I'm a fan of Fury but his bullshit lately has annoyed me, all this drama getting the fight made, some of the stuff he's said trying to act like Usyk was the roadblock while he takes on pointless payday fights against Chisora and demands 70/30 splits, downplaying the challenge because of size difference as if that somehow renders the fight pointless... even using Usyks nationality as the basis of some of his jibes at him, given what's happening in the world and how that plays to the audience is fucking retarded.
I'm in Camp Usyk for this one, fuck him.
Agree on the rest though.
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This is it, one of the things that's annoyed me about Fury recently was his earlier talk of not caring about the money, only caring about the legacy. He'd fight for nothing because he's a fighting man.
So why demand 70%?
Usyk has said fair enough so long as you donate $1 million to relief in Ukraine but you'd have to imagine Usyk would probably seek to use some percentage of his purse with Ukraine aid... so for even that reason alone, Fury is robbing Usyk of this.
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In terms of pure boxing ability, maybe not ... but he was the face of boxing worldwide, had all the big sponsorships, the image, the PR, the biggest PPV draw, held the majority of the belts, could pick and choose his opponent (other than Wilder of course who avoided him like the plague and tried to pick on a guy coming out of a years long battle with drug use, obesity and mental health problems), it wasn't until Ruiz took the shine off AJ that the majority of the paying public didn't see him as the dominant HW Champ.
If you were an educated fan you could see the cracks with the Whyte fight or Wlad rocking him or the lacklustre performances against Parker but he put the Ruiz fight behind him with the rematch, it could have been chalked off to Ruiz getting lucky but it was Usyk who showed outright that, nah, he wasn't what he was cracked up to be.
You can't take away Furys wins over Wilder but out-with that trilogy we haven't really seen him face a great level of competition since his return. This is a harder fight than Fury wants to admit.
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None of the split is going into my account. So I don't really care too much about it. I just want to see the fight.
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70-30, DO YOU DIRTY?
The recent back-and-forthing between unified heavyweight champion, Oleksandr Usyk, and WBC belt-holder, Tyson Fury is very reminiscent of the public bantering between Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins about 20 years ago as they bickered about terms for a possible rematch in the summer of 2002.
Hopkins, who had become the undisputed middleweight titlist after stopping Felix Trinidad, was demanding a 50-50 split versus the man who had defeated him in 1993. While 'RJ', who was considered the best boxer on the planet, was insisting on a 60-40 split. The pair argued on HBO after Hopkins defeated Carl Daniels.
Jones eventually countered with this song, "60-40":
Roy Jones Jr. - 60/40 (Official Streaming Video
Talks eventually fizzled, and the two wouldn't meet again till years later well after the expiration date for that rematch had passed.
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Currently, Usyk and Fury are scheduled (sort of) to meet on April 29th in Wembley Stadium, but as of now, there has been no official announcement for this highly anticipated showdown. Originally, as talk centered around this fight taking place in the Middle East, both sides had agreed to an even split of the money. Then as that deal fell through, Fury and his side, stated that with this fight now being staged in England that it should be a 70-30 split in their favor. Usyk eventually accepted those terms. All of this played out over Twitter last week.
Just when it seemed like Fury-Usky was a go, Fury claimed that Usyk was insisting on a rematch clause.
Which was strongly denied by Usyk's team. There was talk of Fury wanting this fight moved back to June, which Usyk's team has balked at. At this moment, it's not clear if this fight is taking place or not.
Egis Klimas, the manager for Usyk told SNAC.com on Monday, "We've been in negotiations for the fight for three months, and Tyson Fury's side was coming back and forth with, 'we need this, we need that, Tyson wants this, he doesn't want to give tickets, the split,' this and that and that.
"We're tired, and we have obligations with other mandatory fighters, we don't want to hold them,'' Klimas continued, "We had the obligatins with the WBA. Most likely Tyson was trying to pull a scam, bluffing, he came out in the media and said, '70-30, take it or leave it.' And before the negotiation, from Tyson's people, from Tyson's attorney, he came in and said Tyson wants to put in a rematch clause in the contract, and we said, 'no problem, lets put the rematch clause.'"
Klimas says that they have no issues with the split or the rematch clause, but with this caveat, "we have to fight on April 29th as we agreed, as we were talking about for three months." He added later, "We're going to enclose in the contract, the 70-30 is for April 29th. If that fight is going to move to a different date, it's not going to be a 70-30 deal, it's going to be 50-50."
It's clear that they are perturbed by the ever-changing demands of Fury.
"So what's it going to be tomorrow? You can not fight with right hand? Only one hand? What's going to be next? We don't know what's going to be next from this guy," stated Klimas, who added that if a deal wasn't finalized by the end of this week, they would be moving on to take care of their mandatory obligations.
When asked on Monday about the status of this fight, Bob Arum said optimistically, "I think it's pretty well done. I think we'll get have it done soon."
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By Thursday, Klimas was in Spain, and he updated the situation. "It's changed, Top Rank got more involved in it, but not too much. They're still treating Oleksandr Usyk like they did with Derek Chisora, or Dillian Whyte. They act like it's just a regular Fury fight in the UK, and everything has to be by Fury's rules.''
As for this weekend deadline, well, that could be extended a bit.
"We're going to wait because right now we're in the process of hiring British counsel because they are going by the British rules," explained Klimas, who realizes the the popularity of 'the Gypsy King' in his country, but also the accomplishments of his own client who is very familiar to British fans after defeating Anthony Joshua twice. "We are the outsider, but we can't just play by everything they throw to us. Enough is enough."
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So as it stands, Fury-Usyk may or may not happen next.
Klimas reiterated, "If this fight is going to happen, only April 29th. Or it's just going to be cancelled, and we'll go with the mandatory."
FINAL FLURRIES
According to Klimas, it looks like Vasiliy Lomachenko will face undisputed lightweight champion, Devin Haney, on May 20 in Las Vegas....Adrien Broner has signed a promotional contract with Don King. That should be interesting....The WBC has ordered their light heavyweight titlist, Artur Beterbiev, to face Callum Smith....Manny Pacquiao coming back? Say it ain't so!!....I can be reached at [email protected]....
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Who knows what the truth is but it certainly seems from the outside that the Fury team are being as difficult as they possibly can be.
If he's going to fuck around with this to the extent Fury seems to be, Usyk would be right to just get on with his career as the unified Champion and fight mandatories like the Klitschkos did.
Let Fury go and fight his mates for the next couple years and retire with the ignominy that it was him that ducked the unification fight.
This is why boxing is such a shit sport sometimes.
If he's going to fuck around with this to the extent Fury seems to be, Usyk would be right to just get on with his career as the unified Champion and fight mandatories like the Klitschkos did.
Let Fury go and fight his mates for the next couple years and retire with the ignominy that it was him that ducked the unification fight.
This is why boxing is such a shit sport sometimes.
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I don't want to hear anything else about this fight until it gets signed. Enough is enough.
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Shades of Mayweather vs. Pacquaio years ago that seemed to drag on forever before the fight was finally made.
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