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Unofficial Divisional World Rankings

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These Rankings are reflective of performances in fights, not necessarily official scoring, to mitigate the impact of poor judging.
Be good to see a lot of input now there in a new site. Fighters can only be ranked in one division and must have had a fight within the lasy 365 days, unless a fight is lined up.

DIVISIONAL RANKINGS AUGUST 2012

Heavyweight (201lbs+)
World Champion: Wladimir Klitschko (WBA, IBF, WBO)
Kiev, Ukraine
Beat Ruslan Chagaev June 2009

2. Vitali Klitschko (WBC)
3. David Haye
4. Alexander Povetkin
5. Eddie Chambers
6. Tomasz Adamek
7. Chris Arreolla
8. Odlanier Solis
9. Ruslan Chasaev
10. Kurbat Purlev
11. Tony Thompson
12. Tyson Fury
13. Dereck Chisora
14. Robert Helenius
15. Seth Mitchell

Cruiserweight (200lbs)
World Champion: Yoan Pablo Hernandez IBF)
Havana, Cuba
Beat Steve Cunningham February 2012

2. Steve Cunningham
3. Marco Huck (WBO)
4. Dennis Lebedev
5. Ola Afolabi
6. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (WBC)
7. Troy Ross
8. Guillermo Jones (WBA)
9. Francisco Palacios
10. Layteef Kayode
11. Giacobbe Fragomeni
12. Firat Arslan
13. Alexander Alekseev
14. Danny Green
15. BJ Flores

Light Heavyweight (175lbs)
World Champion: Chad Dawson (WBC)
Hartsville, South Carolina, USA
Beat Bernard Hopkins April 2012

2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Gabriel Campillo
4. Tavoris Cloud (IBF)
5. Beibut Shumenov (WBA)
6. Nathan Cleverly (WBO)
7. Karo Marat
8. Eduard Gutknecht
9. Cornelius White
10. Andrezj Fonfara
11. Denis Grachev
12. Tony Bellew
13. Yussuf Mack
14. Issac Chilemba
15. Juergen Braehmer

Super Middleweight (168lbs)
World Championshion: Andre Ward (WBC, WBA)
Oakland, California
Beat Carl Froch December 2011

2. Carl Froch (IBF)
3. Mikkell Kessler
4. Andre Dirrell
5. Lucian Bute
6. Robert Stieglitz (WBO)
7. Arthur Abraham
8. Brian Magee
9. Sakio Bika
10. Kelly Pavlik
11. Karoly Balzsay
12. Edwin Rodriguez
13. George Groves
14. James DeGale
15. Thomas Oosthuizen

Middleweight (160lbs)
World Champion: Sergio Martinez
Buenos Aires, Agentina
Beat Kelly Pavlik April 2010

2. Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr (WBC)
3. Felix Sturm (WBA)
4. Daniel Geale (IBF)
5. Matthew Macklin
6. Dimitry Pirog (WBO)
7. Gennady Golovkin
8. Peter Quillin
9. Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam
10. Gregorz Prozska
11. Darren Barker
12. Martin Murray
13. Marco Antonio Rubio
14. Andy Lee
15. Jermain Taylor

Light Middleweight (154lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Floyd Mayweather (WBA)
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Saul Alvarez (WBC)
4. Erislandy Lara
5. Cornelius Bundrage (IBF)
6. Austin Trout
7. Carlos Molina
8. James Kirkland
9. Zaurbek Baysangurov (WBO)
10. Lukas Konecny
11. Delvin Rodrigurez
12. Alfredo Angulo
13. Sergie Rabchenko
14. Vanes Martirosyan
15. Anthony Mundine

Welterweight (147lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Timothy Bradley (WBO)
3. Paulie Mallignaggi (WBA)
4. Robert Guerrero (WBC)
5. Devon Alexander
6. Randall Bailey (IBF)
7. Kell Brook
8. Victor Ortiz
9. Jan Zaveck
10. Selcuk Aydin
11. Ionut Dan Ion
12. Mike Jones
13. Marcos Maidana
14. Diego Gabriel Chaves
15. Carson Jones

Light Welterweight (140lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Danny Garcia (WBA)
2. Juan Manuel Marquez (WBO)
3. Lucas Mathysse
4. Amir Khan
5. Zab Judah
6. Mike Alvarado
7. Josesito Lopez
8. Erik Morales
9. Ajose Olusegun
10. Kendall Holt
11. Pablo Cesar Cano
12. Khabib Allakhverdiev
13. Denis Shafikov
14. Joan Guzman
15. DeMarcus Corley

(IBF title held by Lamont Peterson. Unranked due to failed drug test)
(WBC title Vacant)

Lightweight (135lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Richard Abrill (WBA)
2. Miguel Vasquez (IBF)
3. Ricky Burns (WBO)
4. Antonio DeMarco (WBC)
5. Urbano Antillon
6. Mercito Gesta
7. Art Hovhannisyan
8. Miguel Acosta
9. John Molina
10. Luis Ramos Jnr
11. Gavin Rees
12. Kevin Mitchell
13. Raymundo Beltran
14. Henry Lundy
15. Sharif Bogere

Super Featherweight (130lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Takashi Uchiyama (WBA)
2. Takahiro Ao (WBC)
3. Juan Carlos Salgado (IBF)
4. Agenis Mendez
5. Roman Martienz
6. Juan Carlos Burgos
7. Sergio Thompson
8. Vincente Escobedo
9. Diego Magdaleno
10. Devis Boschiero
11. Vitali Tajbert
12. Jorge Solis
13. Marvin Honorio
14. Will Tomlinson
15. Javier Fortuna

(WBO Title Vacant)

Featherweight (125lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Yuriorkis Gamboa
2. Orlando Salido (WBO)
3. Jhonny Gonzalez (WBC)
4. Chris John (WBA)
5. Celestino Caballero
6. Juan Manuel Lopez
7. Miguel Angel Garcia
8. Daniel Ponce De Leon
9. Billy Dib (IBF)
10. Ellio Rojas
11. Jonathan Victor Barros
12. Hozumi Hasegawa
13. Daud Yordan
14. Gary Russel Jnr
15. Hozumi Hasegawa

Super Bantamweight (122lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Toshiaki Nishioka
2. Nonito Donaire (WBO, IBF)
3. Guillermo Rigondeaux (WBA)
4. Abner Mares (WBC)
5. Wilfredo Vasquez Jnr
6. Jeffrey Mathebula
7. Rico Ramos
8. Jorge Arce
9. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
10. Rendall Munroe
11. Victor Terrazas
12. Cristian Mijares
13. Giovani Caro
14. Kiko Martinez
15. Rafael Marquez

Bantamweight (118lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Anselmo Moreno (WBA)
2. Joseph Agbeko
3. Shinsuke Yamanaka (WBC)
4. Koki Komeda
5. Leo Santa Cruz (IBF)
6. Vic Darchinyan
7. Hugo Fidel Cazares
8. Hugo Ruiz
9. Vusi Malinga
10. Jamie McDonnell
11. AJ Banal
12. Rolly Matsushita
13. Jesus Galicia
14. Lee Haskins
15. Malcolm Tunacao

Super Flyweight (115lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Omar Navarez (WBO)
2. Tepparith Kokietgym (WBA)
3. Yata Sato (WBC)
4. Juan Carlos Sanchez Jr (IBF)
5. Cesar Seda
6. Suriyan Sor Rungvisai
7. Raul Martinez
8. Tomás Rojas
9. Rodrigo Guerrero
10. Tomonobu Shimizu
11. Juan Alberto Rosas
12. Drian Francisco
13. Nobou Nashiro
14. Simphiwe Nongqayi
15. Sylvester Lopez

Flyweight (112lbs)
World Champion: Toshiyuki Igarashi (WBC)
Tokyo, Japan
Beat Sonny Boy Jara July 2012

2. Brian Viloria (WBO)
3. Hernan Marquez (WBA)
4. Sonny Boy Jaro
5. Moruti Mthalane (IBF)
6. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
7. Giovani Segura
8. Milan Melindo
9. Rodel Mayol
10. Edgar Sosa
11. Rocky Fuentes
12. Julio Cesar Miranda
13. Ricardo Nunez
14. Juan Carlos Reveco
15. Wilbert Uicab

Light Flyweight (108lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Roman Gonzalez (WBA)
2. Ulises Solis (IBF)
3. Donnie Nietes (WBO)
4. Kompayak Porpramook (WBC)
5. John Riel Casimero
6. Adrian Hernandez
7. Juan Palacios
8. Armando Torres
9. Ryo Miyazaki
10. Mario Rodriguez
11. Juan Hernandez
12. Pedro Guevara
13. Alberto Rossel
14. Masayuki Kuroda
15. Ramon Garcia Hirales

Strawweight (105lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Nkosinathi Joyi (IBF)
2. Kazuto Ioka (WBC)
3. Denver Cuello
4. Moises Fuentes (WBO
5. Raul Garcia
6. Akira Yaegashi (WBA)
7. Wanheng Menayothin
8. Ivan Calderon
9. Katsunari Takayama
10. Pornsawan Porpramook
11. Paipharob Kokietgym
12. Muhammad Rachman
13. Hekkie Budler
14. Kwanthai Sithmorseng
15. Jesus Silvestre
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JFT96
These rankings are supposed to be based on fighters performances & not official results, no? So how can the people putting Kirkland over Molina justify him being ahead when he was getting comprehensively beaten? Does th DQ caused by his corner make him inferior to Kirkland?

To be honest, even if you disregard that result and rank them on previous fights, I reckon Molina should be in front due to the Lara and Cintron fights and Kirklands Ishida defeat.

I don't know if you're trolling with some of your comments Bryn but u come out with some bizarre statements on boxing as though they're facts. When honestly, no offence, it just makes you look soft
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JFT96 said:
These rankings are supposed to be based on fighters performances & not official results, no? So how can the people putting Kirkland over Molina justify him being ahead when he was getting comprehensively beaten? Does th DQ caused by his corner make him inferior to Kirkland?

To be honest, even if you disregard that result and rank them on previous fights, I reckon Molina should be in front due to the Lara and Cintron fights and Kirklands Ishida defeat.

I don't know if you're trolling with some of your comments Bryn but u come out with some bizarre statements on boxing as though they're facts. When honestly, no offence, it just makes you look soft
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Yes, Kirkland was being outboxed by Molina. However, the bout was not scheduled for just 10 rounds, and it was not without question that Kirkland wouldn't have been able to produce a stoppage based on the 10th round of the contest.

It would be like cutting the Bailey-Jones contest short at the end of ten rounds and saying Jones' overall performance was better, he goes ahead of him. We'll never know if Kirkland could produce a stoppage like Bailey did, but I think it is unfair to just say Molina deserves to be ranked ahead based on the performance over the completed rounds when Kirkland's opportunity to stop him (an opportunity that wasn't too far fetched) was taken away from him.

It just isn't as clear cut as that. Fair enough if the contest was completed and it was a flat out robbery like Rios-Abril, but this fight was not complete and, in this case, there are too many ifs and buts to just say you go on Molina's performance over 10 when ranking the two of them.

Again, IMO.
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Teeto said:
so are you actually disagreeing with my post on a general basis @Roe or not? You're jumping all over me with shit gifs and pics when I just said I wasn't even talking about Molina, I wasn't even talking about DQ's, I was talking about ranking guys on doing ok but losing, I think that's stupid. I was talking about the first few posts in the thread.

And your shit post here doesn't even apply to me. I don't rate fighters on the fake truth. I rate fighters on what I believe to be the truth. I rate on how I thought the fight went, not how some corrupt judges thought a fight went, like in Pac-Bradley. That's a Pac win in my book, because I will not conform,

Rating Molina over Kirklaind is fine by me.

My post was referring to this talk about fighters losing fights but getting ranked well for it because they did ok before they lost the fight. That's not my thing, we're getting into aesthetics if we do that and are leaving everything open to justification.

Get off your high horse now you wank stain
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I don't think you can put anyone else ahead of Tim Bradley at WW.

Other fighters rankings have improved after losses. Darren Barker for example. I don't see the issue with that. The 0 is not everything.
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JFT96
I have no issue with that line of thinking and that wasn't what I was arguing. I was questioning Bryns (again not sure if he was trolling) view that the actual DQ means that Kirkland merits being ahead. Surely if you want to use that fight when ranking them, Molina should come out on top?

But I have no issue in disregarding it in the rankings. As I already said, Id still put Molina ahead.
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robpalmer135 said:
I don't think you can put anyone else ahead of Tim Bradley at WW.

Other fighters rankings have improved after losses. Darren Barker for example. I don't see the issue with that. The 0 is not everything.
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I never mentioned a 0. That is not my logic, I don't rate fighters on record, I rate them on how effective they are and have been in recent outings, very simple logic
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to be clear had Kirkland been ranked ahead off Molina prior to the fight, he would have stayed ahead. but when Molina was well on his way to a win and then got a bullshit DQ, it goes against what these rankings stand for to put Kirkland ahead.

If Kirkland gets another good win against a good fighter he will go ahead.
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Teeto said:
I never mentioned a 0. That is not my logic, I don't rate fighters on record, I rate them on how effective they are and have been in recent outings, very simple logic
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yeh. with that logic i still think bradley is no.2 in a weak WW division
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robpalmer135 said:
yeh. with that logic i still think bradley is no.2 in a weak WW division
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I agree mate, I would have had him at 2 (if I'd had a list) before he fought Pac, and then we all watched him lost to him, so he shouldn't be knocked down to below number 2, because of the nature of the division at present

good lists btw rob, great thread
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Pabby said:
Adrian Diaconu(11th at light heavy) hasn't fought in over a year and I think might even be retired.

Shawn Porter is 15th at 140 but he's campaigning as a welterweight at the moment.

Cristobal Cruz(11th at feather) has officially won none of his last 5(I thought he beat Hovhannisyan though) and had his last couple of bouts at 130, so he should probably be dropped altogether, as much as it hurts me to say. I think Javier Fortuna - his most recent conqueror - might have a case to get in at super feather actually. Maybe instead of Gulyakevich(not directly taking his exact spot, of course), who hasn't really done anything significant. in like 3 years.

Good work as always, Rob.:good
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couple of changes made on these points. thanks for the input.

loving the debate.
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Pacquaio is definitely the best WW today, but more by crook than hook.

Had Floyd or Marquez remained in the WW division I think both would have to be ahead of him. But given his "victory" over p4p rated Bradley, I can't see a valid argument for anyone else being top dog of the divison.
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Regarding Molina-Kirkland.

Kirkland had Molina hurt, so there's no guarantee how the fight would have played out. Molina's corner entered the ring, clear DQ. Bizarre decision by team Molina but the win has to stand.

Different with Bute-Froch because Hearn was the promoter, he broke no rules, just made himself look a twat.
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JFT96 said:
These rankings are supposed to be based on fighters performances & not official results, no? So how can the people putting Kirkland over Molina justify him being ahead when he was getting comprehensively beaten? Does th DQ caused by his corner make him inferior to Kirkland?

To be honest, even if you disregard that result and rank them on previous fights, I reckon Molina should be in front due to the Lara and Cintron fights and Kirklands Ishida defeat.

I don't know if you're trolling with some of your comments Bryn but u come out with some bizarre statements on boxing as though they're facts. When honestly, no offence, it just makes you look soft
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Now that's just mean.

I wouldn't call it trolling anyways, I just chose to argue the point of Kirkland ahead of Molina. Not saying that's my view, just chose it as a stance for the purposees of debate.
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a dq should negate the fact he was winning, it's a loss.

otherwise any fucker could go 6 rounds up, get dropped, get their corner to run in and still receive credit for a winning performance.

this isn't like walcott v dixie kid where one gets disqualified because the ref has bet on the fight, it's a clear breach of rules.
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robpalmer135 said:
to be clear had Kirkland been ranked ahead off Molina prior to the fight, he would have stayed ahead. but when Molina was well on his way to a win and then got a bullshit DQ, it goes against what these rankings stand for to put Kirkland ahead.

If Kirkland gets another good win against a good fighter he will go ahead.
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Well on his way to a win by having Kirkland having his best round of the fight and hitting the deck? It's all just speculation to how the fight would have ended. If it was scheduled for 10 rounds I'd agree with ranking Molina ahead. Imo you can't rank on how you think a fight would have ended. It's hard enough getting people to be on the same page on rounds that actually happened let alone ones that didn't even take place!
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robpalmer135 said:
to be clear had Kirkland been ranked ahead off Molina prior to the fight, he would have stayed ahead. but when Molina was well on his way to a win and then got a bullshit DQ, it goes against what these rankings stand for to put Kirkland ahead.

If Kirkland gets another good win against a good fighter he will go ahead.
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I agree with this.
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to be clear, what happened in the fight in irrelevant to the ranking. kirkland was coming strong but molina has won the previous 9 rounds. the fight in the eyes of the rankings was pretty much a draw. Molina is ahead of kirkland because of previous performances.
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Just talking about Kirkland/Molina makes me feel sick. What a disgraceful farce that was.
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updated from last weekends fight.
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Bryn
You've still got Molina over Kirkland, mate.
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Bryn said:
You've still got Molina over Kirkland, mate.
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