[JamieC]

It's been nearly a week since the fight, and I'm still not sure what the consensus is on this fight. Personally, I thought there were many close rounds and it could have gone either way but I had Martinez just pulling away, how did you guys have it?

 

[Bryn]

I had it 114-113 Murray.

 

[Roe]

Think I had Martinez by a point but have a feeling if I rewatch it I'd probably end up scoring it to Murray.

 

[JamieC]

Think I had Martinez by a point but have a feeling if I rewatch it I'd probably end up scoring it to Murray.

Thats a good point, I feel the same. That's the danger with rescoring I feel, we have the benefit of hindsight, we've seen replays etc, we're influenced by punditry sometimes, that's why I very rarely rescore, I stick with the score I had on the night as if I were a judge :lol:

 

[Roe]

Thats a good point, I feel the same. That's the danger with rescoring I feel, we have the benefit of hindsight, we've seen replays etc, we're influenced by punditry sometimes, that's why I very rarely rescore, I stick with the score I had on the night as if I were a judge :lol:

Sounds a bit strange but sometimes it's fairer to have hindsight when scoring a fight, rather than preconceived ideas about how it will go. Without really thinking about it, a lot of rounds I gave to Martinez, I probably only gave to him because I knew more about him.

 

[JamieC]

Sounds a bit strange but sometimes it's fairer to have hindsight when scoring a fight, rather than preconceived ideas about how it will go. Without really thinking about it, a lot of rounds I gave to Martinez, I probably only gave to him because I knew more about him.

That's true as well, I do feel I gave him rounds where maybe watching it back or seeing replays from different angles I might see his work wasnt landing as clean as I had thought, and Murray might nick it on my card. But then it's almost like I feel the judges got it wrong, even though live, on the night, the same situation they had, I did score it to Martinez

 

[Bryn]

Martinez really struggled to land much clean throughout the whole fight. He has hitting elbows, forearms, gloves. Anything but Murray's head, essentially.

 

[Roe]

Martinez really struggled to land much clean throughout the whole fight. He has hitting elbows, forearms, gloves. Anything but Murray's head, essentially.

Arm punches. :deal

 

[Bryn]

Arm punches. :deal

:lol:

 

[Vano-irons]

114-113 Martinez. I would have had it level if the second knockdown would given

 

[dftaylor]

Murray wasn't hitting much clean. I think a lot of the pro Murray scoring is simply because he did better than expected.

One point either way is fine.

 

[Roe]

Murray wasn't hitting much clean. I think a lot of the pro Murray scoring is simply because he did better than expected.

One point either way is fine.

You seem to use this line a lot and I don't agree with it. If anything, I think more people scored it to Martinez because they fought he'd win.

 

[Bryn]

You seem to use this line a lot and I don't agree with it. If anything, I think more people scored it to Martinez because they fought he'd win.

Thought*

I think I'm more like you, Roe, in that I sort of gave rounds to Martinez by default as I was expecting him to win them.

I think whichever way you slice it up, it's a razor thin win either way. Murray's stock has risen and I fear it may be the last we see of Martinez, certainly the last we'll see of him near to his best.

 

[Steve Funn]

Draw :bellew

Though if the second knock down had been given then Murray by 1.

 

[Roe]

Thought*

:lol: I always make that mistake because I'm thinking about fighting while I type. Or I'm maybe finking about thighting. :thnk

 

[Bryn]

:lol: I always make that mistake because I'm thinking about fighting while I type. Or I'm maybe finking about thighting. :thnk

:fink

 

[JamieC]

Thought*

I think I'm more like you, Roe, in that I sort of gave rounds to Martinez by default as I was expecting him to win them.

I think whichever way you slice it up, it's a razor thin win either way. Murray's stock has risen and I fear it may be the last we see of Martinez, certainly the last we'll see of him near to his best.

The difference between that Martinez and the Martinez of the Chavez fight was shocking, he just didn't have the movement of head or foot to be the Maravilla we know

 

[JFT96]

Oops I voted Martinez by accident. I actually had Murray up by 2 points, should have been more with the KD

 

[Chatty]

I had it a draw with the knockdown that should of been

 

[dftaylor]

You seem to use this line a lot and I don't agree with it. If anything, I think more people scored it to Martinez because they fought he'd win.

I find it's often true. It definitely was for Alvarez-Trout. As it was for Cotto-Mayweather.

There's just no strong argument that there was a clear winner in the Martinez fight. It's one side overstating their guy's success while trying to dismiss the other's.