Who would you like to see Froch fight next?
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I think Pascal again. The first fight was great and both have improved since then, although Pascal's maybe slipped a little again.
I like both Groves and Froch but I wouldn't wanna see them fight each other. Not at this stage anyway. Groves needs to step up probably 2 or 3 levels before he gets to a fight like that.
I'd quite like Froch to have another fight or two to build up to the Ward rematch but wouldn't mind seeing it later this year either. Not saying he'd win, but I think Froch would do much better in a 2nd fight with Ward.
Might sound strange but I wouldn't mind seeing Froch/DeGale. The build up would be funny and although I don't really rate DeGale much, he does have some qualities that could potentially make things difficult for Froch.
I like both Groves and Froch but I wouldn't wanna see them fight each other. Not at this stage anyway. Groves needs to step up probably 2 or 3 levels before he gets to a fight like that.
I'd quite like Froch to have another fight or two to build up to the Ward rematch but wouldn't mind seeing it later this year either. Not saying he'd win, but I think Froch would do much better in a 2nd fight with Ward.
Might sound strange but I wouldn't mind seeing Froch/DeGale. The build up would be funny and although I don't really rate DeGale much, he does have some qualities that could potentially make things difficult for Froch.
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I'd like to see a Ward rematch just as long as it's over here. I'm sick of American world champions these days basically fighting on home turf everytime they box. I'd like to see how Ward handles coming into hostile territory in a foriegn country against a man hellbent on avenging his only other defeat (assuming he beats Kessler of course).
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Out of that list, Groves.
Ward is not really an exciting fight or a perceivably winnable one, Kessler we haven't seen how the second one went yet, Hopkins would be an interesting option, Bute needs to come back and fight someone good first, Pascal to me was a good fight but I don't really have an interest in those two fighting again. I don't really rate Pascal that much.
Ward is not really an exciting fight or a perceivably winnable one, Kessler we haven't seen how the second one went yet, Hopkins would be an interesting option, Bute needs to come back and fight someone good first, Pascal to me was a good fight but I don't really have an interest in those two fighting again. I don't really rate Pascal that much.
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That's an excellent point, I think to be a true great you need to win on the road. If Ward is as good as he says (and he says he can stop Froch with two good hands) he should have no problem giving Froch a return fight in the UK.
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He could rematch Dirrell in the US. I'd like to see that; if he can beat him more convincingly than last time I'd be more confident in him making a better fist of a second bout with Ward.
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That would make an exciting contest.
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I'm not at all bothered to see Ward-Froch II to be honest. The fight wasn't exactly close or controversial, most (including me) had Ward a clear, decisive winner. I had Ward winning 117-111 IIRC, so no need to see a rematch. They could fight in the States, England, Canada, Monaco, The Moon, etc. And Ward is still the superior fighter.
If Froch-Kessler II is a good fight or is somewhat close/controversial, I'd love to see a rubber match. Or perhaps Froch-Pascal II in the future.
If Froch-Kessler II is a good fight or is somewhat close/controversial, I'd love to see a rubber match. Or perhaps Froch-Pascal II in the future.
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It obviously revolves around the manner in which Froch wins at the weekend (which he will). Close points decision we obviously see the third instalment of him against Kessler but a TKO/KO which is what I'm leaning towards would probably put Kessler off a third. Out of the list my heart would like to see an Andre Ward fight, you hear Carl talk in press conferences in interviews and feel he could really prove a point against him a second time round. Difficulty is I think it would be the same story with Ward winning on a wide decision. A Pascal rematch would undoubtedly be tasty as it would be a guaranteed war, but there isn't really much tempting Carl back to fight Pascal I think.
Hopkins at a catchweight therefore I believe would be a good choice. If Carl was to beat Kessler and Hopkins his resume would look exceptional even more so than it does already.
Hopkins at a catchweight therefore I believe would be a good choice. If Carl was to beat Kessler and Hopkins his resume would look exceptional even more so than it does already.
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I understand what you're saying but there aren't many options for Ward. I can't think of many fights for him which would be competitive.
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True. At the very least Froch grabbed a few rounds, and if he beats Kessler he'll have been on a very nice three-fight win streak and would have at least earned a rematch with Ward.
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Yeah I think it makes sense.
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Yeah Ward beat Froch comfortably the first time and he's probably good enough to beat him just as convincingly a second time but American World champs in general are too fuckin' arrogant to ply their trade abroad and Ward, for me, looks like he will never defend his title overseas.
Over here Ward-Froch II will have an incredible atmosphere and Andre would be facing the type of hostility, not to mention adapting to a different country, that he has never seen before. Maybe it would affect him mentally? Personally I don't think it would but the not knowing for sure and the fact we are never likely to find out, takes some of the shine away from his status for me.
Over here Ward-Froch II will have an incredible atmosphere and Andre would be facing the type of hostility, not to mention adapting to a different country, that he has never seen before. Maybe it would affect him mentally? Personally I don't think it would but the not knowing for sure and the fact we are never likely to find out, takes some of the shine away from his status for me.
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I mean, sure, I'd like to see Ward fight in his opponent's backyard for a change but staging Ward-Froch II in England isn't going to phase Andre to the point where he won't win another wide decision IMO. Obviously Froch has solidified himself as the clear #2 super-middleweight in the world already, but would anybody really expect something other than another clear points victory?
If Ward wants to fight the #2 in the world based on the guy's merit, shit, I'm not going to argue. But I'm just not bothered about it happening. I'd like to see both move on and face new opponents. :conf
If Ward wants to fight the #2 in the world based on the guy's merit, shit, I'm not going to argue. But I'm just not bothered about it happening. I'd like to see both move on and face new opponents. :conf
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I voted for Bute, but Froch is pretty much above criticism at this point and I will happily watch any fight he schedules. He represents everything that is right about boxing.
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Don't understand how Ward is arrogant to stay in the States. He's top dog. Calzaghe did the exact same thing, for example. Fought in the UK for fucking ages. He contested a grand total of three fights outside the UK in a 46 fight career, many of 'em being title bouts.
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The thing is Froch don't have too many fights left. Not that he's slipping, it's just the way I see things. If he gets past Kessler on Saturday, which I believe he will, I think he's more than earned a Ward rematch. It's the best fight out there at super middle and Froch, for all his travelling, deserves to have a second crack at Ward in England.
And fuck Dirrell, he don't deserve another fight with Froch. The man is a disgrace.
And fuck Dirrell, he don't deserve another fight with Froch. The man is a disgrace.
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Part of the argument stems from if Froch and Ward were to fight again the venue in the UK would be much larger than the one in the US.
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Was never a Calzaghe fan and he should have travelled. My point about Ward being arrogant applies to all American champions. Everybody has to go to their land. Over the years they have gotten more and more insistent about having home advantage everytime. World champions from other countries travel. I mean, they are World champions afterall.
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