Wilder vs Helenius - 15th Oct

Ar558a · 2022-08-17

Wilder taking a nice easy fight in his attempted comeback. Helenius isn't a complete nobody but if Wilder still has the one punch I would expect an Ortiz-esque win for Wilder lose every second of 4,5 or 6 rounds before KO'ing the Finn with one punch. I wonder what ridiculous price for PPV this will be 🤣

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· #40 · 8 mo ago

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1581502040001622021

That was quick.

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."

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· #44 · 8 mo ago

46 Wins said:
He's back!

Damn near took three minutes for Helenius to get up onto the stool lol I really don't know how Fury got up each and every time, if Usyk eats a clean shot from Wilder it's goodnight.

Ruiz Jr up next. I hear Frank Sanchez followed Ryan Garcia out of Reynoso's gym, I wonder what the problem was

Reynoso was not giving them enough one to one time. Had them working with assistants. So Garcia, Sanchez and Andy Ruiz jr all went elsewhere.

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."

MUHAMMAD ALI.

"Its a Dog eat Dog World...! if you are going to aim for something aim as high as you can, reach for the stars, even if you miss atleast you will have touched the Sky, If you set your goals as high as possible you will become something otherwise no matter how talented you are you will end up as a nearly man or a nothing, in boxing you find some guys who have all the talent in the world but the lack of self belief to make it count, whilst you have other fighters who might not be as talented but they have a deluded level of Self Confidence what you need to do when reaching for them goals is to be as deluded as possible...!"
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· #46 · 8 mo ago

46 Wins said:
Well I hope Sanchez doesn't have the same problem now since he's only gone and followed Garcia and I would imagine Garcia will be the main focus given his potential and drawing power. Imagine going to Canelo's gym and expecting not to be working with assistants most of the time, there's only 24hours in a day and Canelo is always in the gym I hear. Anyway I hope it works out for them all

The gym is in San Diego and Canelo spends his time inbetween fights in
Mexico with his family. From what I read Reynoso himself would make frequent trips back to Mexico when Canelo was not in camp, and other fighters had to make do with the Assistants.

No Joe Goosen is a professional and he is known for giving his fighters the time. After 40 years of top level coaching he has probably forgotten more then Reynoso will ever learn.

Reynoso is just a one hit wonder type of coaches who gets a name from training one fighter and does not accomplish much other then that. These type of coaches occasionally appear on the scene like that trainer Jack Loew who trained Kelly Pavlik.

Incidentally Oscar Delahoyas break down of relationship with Canelo began when he publically criticised Reynosos coaching skills.

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."

MUHAMMAD ALI.

"Its a Dog eat Dog World...! if you are going to aim for something aim as high as you can, reach for the stars, even if you miss atleast you will have touched the Sky, If you set your goals as high as possible you will become something otherwise no matter how talented you are you will end up as a nearly man or a nothing, in boxing you find some guys who have all the talent in the world but the lack of self belief to make it count, whilst you have other fighters who might not be as talented but they have a deluded level of Self Confidence what you need to do when reaching for them goals is to be as deluded as possible...!"
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· #49 · 8 mo ago (Edited)

gumbo2176 said:
And that's the problem I have with so many of the fights being aired today. Everybody thinks they are worthy of PPV status. That internet ass clown Jake Paul fighting nobodies, Floyd Mayweather fighting less than nobodies, Wilder who's record for his last 5 fights is 3-2-1 all on PPV.

The biggest shock of that fight from the small clip I saw was Helenius getting KO'd by a counter left hook that didn't look to be all that well thrown from the angle of the video clip in this thread.

The above clip and its angle posted you could say is an optical illusion. The left hook was a follow up punch and it actually missed. The right hand landed right on the button.

Here is a different angle.

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."

MUHAMMAD ALI.

"Its a Dog eat Dog World...! if you are going to aim for something aim as high as you can, reach for the stars, even if you miss atleast you will have touched the Sky, If you set your goals as high as possible you will become something otherwise no matter how talented you are you will end up as a nearly man or a nothing, in boxing you find some guys who have all the talent in the world but the lack of self belief to make it count, whilst you have other fighters who might not be as talented but they have a deluded level of Self Confidence what you need to do when reaching for them goals is to be as deluded as possible...!"
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· #51 · 8 mo ago

Cableaddict said:
Woah. I think everybody missed that. It makes a lot more sense now.

Still, Nice to see Wilder attacking after being pushed back, and also throwing combos again. Heck, he was even using jabs to keep Helenius at distance,
Maybe Malik Scott is a better trainer than we thought.

The veteran coach Don House has had a full camp as part of Wilders team.

In previous fight with Fury he was only brought in during the last 3 weeks.

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."

MUHAMMAD ALI.

"Its a Dog eat Dog World...! if you are going to aim for something aim as high as you can, reach for the stars, even if you miss atleast you will have touched the Sky, If you set your goals as high as possible you will become something otherwise no matter how talented you are you will end up as a nearly man or a nothing, in boxing you find some guys who have all the talent in the world but the lack of self belief to make it count, whilst you have other fighters who might not be as talented but they have a deluded level of Self Confidence what you need to do when reaching for them goals is to be as deluded as possible...!"
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Who wins and by what method

Wilder by KO

Wilder on Pts

Helenius on Pts

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