[dkos]

...Are the opposite.

Like Derrick Gainer stopping the-then 38-0-1 Freddie Norwood in the 11th round after leading on all scorecards to win the WBA featherweight title.

Looks great on paper, yet the contest was a foul-filled mess with one of the most incompetent performances by a referee that is on film. The 'stoppage' also came after a double uppercut to the bollocks by Gainer, where Norwood failed to beat the 18 count (that's not a typo).

What examples do you have? :good

 

[JFT96]

Rodel Mayol TKO2 Edgar Sosa. Seems a pretty incredible result for a fringe world level fighter whose power at the top level was never anything to write home about. But it doesn't show the horrendous, fight changing headbutting which preceded the stoppage

 

[anklespanker756]

The 'stoppage' also came after a double uppercut to the bollocks by Gainer, where Norwood failed to beat the 18 count (that's not a typo)

:rofl

This could be a really interesting thread.. although I can't think of any examples at the moment myself.

 

[JFT96]

Mares-Agbeko I is clearly a tainted win. As the judges had to go with the ref's calls, they had to count the pathetic 2nd KD and obviously couldn't take points off for all the low blows. Mares therefore on paper did enough to win the fight but given that body shots, both legal and illegal, were key in him controlling the fight, how the fight would have turned out if he'd lost points early on has to be questioned.

 

[JFT96]

Pacquiao-De la Hoya. The best way of describing that fight is how he went from being considered 'cherrypicked' beforehand to 'cherrypicker' afterwards on the basis of how Oscar looked. It seemed an incredible win and in ways it is but given how shot de la Hoya looked, the shine was taken off it.

Khan-Peterson too, clearly. He surprised many by pulling out a great gameplan to beat Khan but it was still close and the issue of the testosterone after has soured it

 

[sim_reiss]

Haye-Valuev

A fighter executing a great gameplan showing tremendous elusiveness to outpoint a goliath of a man to win the world title, even rocking him to his boots during the contest...

OR

A fighter narrowly outpointing arguably the worst world heavyweight titlist of all time, certainly the most cumbersome, unskilled and pedestrian with an aggressiveness and punch output which reflected a combination of gun shyness and concerns about stamina, both of which would prove telling later in his career defining fight...

 

[Noonaldinho]

TAylor Froch?? :think

 

[adamcanavan]

Mckenzie-enzo mac on paper looks great for the level its at but obviously its not

 

[tdw]

Danny Williams-Mike Tyson?

 

[Chatty]

Margarito-Cotto - just for the likely handwrapping.

 

[Chatty]

Ward-Dawson

 

[dkos]

:rofl

That was how it finished :lol:

 

[SimonTemplar]

That was how it finished :lol:

:lol: that must have smarted the next day.

 

[iamasadlittleboy]

I swear the referee got to 20 in that count. One of the most bizarre endings (it's in the bizarre endings topic).

 

[Vano-irons]

I'm going to enjoy this thread :good

The one that immediately sprang to mind was Maxim KO13 Robinson. Here, Joey becomes the first and only man ever to stop probably the greatest boxer of all time. But that completely neglects the fact that Robinson had previously won almost every round, and lost to heat exhaustion more than anything else in a fight that also saw the referee pass out with the heat, reportedly over the 100 degree mark

 

[JamieC]

I'm going to enjoy this thread :good

The one that immediately sprang to mind was Maxim KO13 Robinson. Here, Joey becomes the first and only man ever to stop probably the greatest boxer of all time. But that completely neglects the fact that Robinson had previously won almost every round, and lost to heat exhaustion more than anything else in a fight that also saw the referee pass out with the heat, reportedly over the 100 degree mark

"It was hot in there for me too" - Joey Maxim

 

[Vano-irons]

"It was hot in there for me too" - Joey Maxim

:lol: of course it was. But he has about a stone on Robinson, who was forced to box and move pretty much the entire fight.

I think it's safe to say that if it wasn't 104 degrees, Maxim wouldn't have stopped Ray

 

[JamieC]

:lol: of course it was. But he has about a stone on Robinson, who was forced to box and move pretty much the entire fight.

I think it's safe to say that if it wasn't 104 degrees, Maxim wouldn't have stopped Ray

He made Ray run to tire him out He was unlucky it was that hot though you're right, shame to see him collapse in that

 

[scribbs]

I'm going to enjoy this thread :good

The one that immediately sprang to mind was Maxim KO13 Robinson. Here, Joey becomes the first and only man ever to stop probably the greatest boxer of all time. But that completely neglects the fact that Robinson had previously won almost every round, and lost to heat exhaustion more than anything else in a fight that also saw the referee pass out with the heat, reportedly over the 100 degree mark

The problem with the heat exhaustion statement is that there were 2 fighters in the ring. It was hot, the ref had to be replaced, but the quote that Maxim apparently stated sums it up for me:

"I didn't have air conditioning in my corner"

Also this from boxrec:

"The heat talk is an alibi and excuse," he said. "Robinson was nailed good in the belly in the tenth round and again in the twelfth and he got a left hook and a right to the head at the end of the thirteenth, when he was on the ropes. If the bell hadn't a rang he'd be dead." " It was the way we planned it. We had Joey lay back and let Robinson punch himself out." Jack Kearns

Although Kearns is not exactly a reputable figure, I believe there's some truth in it being a excuse. I have come to the conclusion that it's been blown out of proportion to save Robinson's aura when in fact he had just blown his wad. If it was not as hot then who knows but it was.

 

[scribbs]

Lewis - Tyson
Mayweather - Mosley
Jones - Ruiz
Ward - Dawson
Holmes - Ali
Hatton - Tzsyu