[King Horse]

1. (1.) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. (2.) Juan Manuel Marquez
3. (3.) Andre Ward
4. (4.) Nonito Donaire
5. (5.) Sergio Martinez
6. (6.) Wladimir Klitschko
7. (7.) Manny Pacquiao
8. (8.) Carl Froch
9. (9.) Abner Mares
10. (10.) Brian Viloria

11. (11.) Timothy Bradley
12. (12.) Vitali Klitschko
13. (13.) Yuriorkis Gamboa
14. (14.) Anselmo Moreno
15. (15.) Chad Dawson
16. (17.) Austin Trout
17. (NE.) Miguel Garcia
18. (18.) Bernard Hopkins
19. (19.) Danny Garcia
20. (20.) Lucas Matthysse

21. (21.) Mikkel Kessler
22. (22.) Robert Guerrero
23. (23.) Daniel Ponce De Leon
24. (24.) Kazuto Ioka
25. (25.) Miguel Cotto
26. (26.) Daniel Geale
27. (16.) Orlando Salido
28. (27.) Saul Alvarez
29. (29.) Yoan Pablo Hernandez
30. (30.) Toshiyuki Igarashi

Out - (28.) Tomasz Adamek

 

[Roe]

:clap:

A solid list.

 

[dkos]

Considering you didn't answer me last time, I'll ask again: how does Igarashi rank above Uchiyama?

 

[Lilo]

Why is Ward above Martinez? Mikey above Danny? And the Igarashi/Uchiyama thing?

Sensible list though

 

[King Horse]

:clap:

A solid list.

Thanks, Roe.

 

[King Horse]

Considering you didn't answer me last time, I'll ask again: how does Igarashi rank above Uchiyama?

Because he is the Ring champion and Uchiyama isn't.

 

[King Horse]

Why is Ward above Martinez? Mikey above Danny? And the Igarashi/Uchiyama thing?

Sensible list though

Ward's opposition has been better than Martinez's over the last couple of years.

Mikey beat Salido who was ranked at 16th last month, so I gave him a good ranking this month.

 

[dkos]

Because he is the Ring champion and Uchiyama isn't.

:lol:

Great reasoning that is.

 

[Vano-irons]

Cotto - lost his last two. He shouldn't be that high as he keeps racking off losses. He should drop down a level ( just like you said Chisora should) before he is rated that high

Mares at 9 has beaten your current number 14, but is still below Carl Froch, who lost to your number 21

Hopkins hasn't won a fight for a year and a half, but you have him above Danny Garcia (who is a beloved Ring Champion)

I'll ask again, where's Roman Gonzalez?

Donaire > Ward

 

[Post Box]

Because he is the Ring champion and Uchiyama isn't.

lol

 

[Bryn]

:horse

The thing is you cannot use completely set rules for ranking, like Ring Champion is worth a lot more than any other title etc. Comparing Cotto's last two losses and Chisora's is a bit of a joke. Chisora's has never beaten the level of opposition that Cotto has, his best win is Helenius who was nothing but hype, Chisora has lost comprehensively at British level, and we'll beaten at world level. He should be in the list, and his placing is about right.

 

[Chatty]

Mayweather is too high for me. Ward and Donaire should be above him.

 

[Vano-irons]

:horse

The thing is you cannot use completely set rules for ranking, like Ring Champion is worth a lot more than any other title etc. Comparing Cotto's last two losses and Chisora's is a bit of a joke. Chisora's has never beaten the level of opposition that Cotto has, his best win is Helenius who was nothing but hype, Chisora has lost comprehensively at British level, and we'll beaten at world level. He should be in the list, and his placing is about right.

I'm completely taking the piss in comparing them.

But burger boy said Chisora is ranked below frankie gavin and brian rose because he lost twice in a row at world level. Cotto has lost 3 of his last 6.

I think Cotto is about right. But the reasoning must be that he has mixed with world class company and performed well (ie Mayweather) rather than reaching those lofty heights based on Yuri Foreman and a one eyed Margarito

 

[King Horse]

Cotto - lost his last two. He shouldn't be that high as he keeps racking off losses. He should drop down a level ( just like you said Chisora should) before he is rated that high

Cotto is in the bottom 10, he has dropped down a level or two because of his recent loss.

Mares at 9 has beaten your current number 14, but is still below Carl Froch, who lost to your number 21

Yes.

Hopkins hasn't won a fight for a year and a half, but you have him above Danny Garcia (who is a beloved Ring Champion)

Yes.

I'll ask again, where's Roman Gonzalez?

When he beats someone good like Ioka then I'll rank him.

Donaire > Ward

I give the edge to Ward.

 

[King Horse]

:horse

The thing is you cannot use completely set rules for ranking, like Ring Champion is worth a lot more than any other title etc.

The Ring title is worth the most.

Comparing Cotto's last two losses and Chisora's is a bit of a joke. Chisora's has never beaten the level of opposition that Cotto has, his best win is Helenius who was nothing but hype, Chisora has lost comprehensively at British level, and we'll beaten at world level. He should be in the list, and his placing is about right.

:good

 

[Vano-irons]

:conf

 

[King Horse]

Mayweather is too high for me. Ward and Donaire should be above him.

If Donaire's next opponent is better than Mayweather's then Donaire will probably move to No. 1.

 

[w;dkm ckeqfjq c]

1. (1.) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. (2.) Juan Manuel Marquez
3. (3.) Andre Ward
4. (4.) Nonito Donaire
5. (5.) Sergio Martinez
6. (6.) Wladimir Klitschko
7. (7.) Manny Pacquiao
8. (8.) Carl Froch
9. (9.) Abner Mares
10. (10.) Brian Viloria

11. (11.) Timothy Bradley
12. (12.) Vitali Klitschko
13. (13.) Yuriorkis Gamboa
14. (14.) Anselmo Moreno
15. (15.) Chad Dawson
16. (17.) Austin Trout
17. (NE.) Miguel Garcia
18. (18.) Bernard Hopkins
19. (19.) Danny Garcia
20. (20.) Lucas Matthysse

21. (21.) Mikkel Kessler
22. (22.) Robert Guerrero
23. (23.) Daniel Ponce De Leon
24. (24.) Kazuto Ioka
25. (25.) Miguel Cotto
26. (26.) Daniel Geale
27. (16.) Orlando Salido
28. (27.) Saul Alvarez
29. (29.) Yoan Pablo Hernandez
30. (30.) Toshiyuki Igarashi

Out - (28.) Tomasz Adamek

Okay. Here are my problems with the list. First off, and I know I'll catch hell here for it, Froch is being over rated. Your top 7 generally includes the consensus people. For me the following spaces should be 8: Mares, 9: Bradley, 10: Viloria and THEN froch at 11. Maybe if Froch beats kessler then you can put him at 8. Maybe.

Moreno is better than Gamboa. Gamboa has been inactive as fuck and looked shit last time out, coupled with him apparently being a drug cheat. So swap their places for me.

Moreno > Trout > Gamboa > Dawson (gamboa and dawson are swappable)

Matthysse > Bhop > Danny Garcia > Miguel Garcia

Then I don't have a problem with the rest.

For your top 10 though, Donaire > ward > JMM

 

[w;dkm ckeqfjq c]

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Donaire
3. Ward
4. JMM
5. (5.) Sergio Martinez
6. (6.) Wladimir Klitschko
7. (7.) Manny Pacquiao
8. Mares
9. Bradley
10. Viloria
11. Froch
12. (12.) Vitali Klitschko
13. Moreno
14. Trout
15. Gamboa
16. Dawson
17. Matthysse
18. BHOP
19. Danny Garcia
20. Miguel Garcia

21. (21.) Mikkel Kessler
22. (22.) Robert Guerrero
23. (23.) Daniel Ponce De Leon
24. (24.) Kazuto Ioka
25. (25.) Miguel Cotto
26. (26.) Daniel Geale
27. (16.) Orlando Salido
28. (27.) Saul Alvarez
29. (29.) Yoan Pablo Hernandez
30. (30.) Toshiyuki Igarashi

didn't do shit to the last 10 cause it's so interchangeable.

 

[King Horse]

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Donaire
3. Ward
4. JMM
5. (5.) Sergio Martinez
6. (6.) Wladimir Klitschko
7. (7.) Manny Pacquiao
8. Mares
9. Bradley
10. Viloria
11. Froch
12. (12.) Vitali Klitschko
13. Moreno
14. Trout
15. Gamboa
16. Dawson
17. Matthysse
18. BHOP
19. Danny Garcia
20. Miguel Garcia

21. (21.) Mikkel Kessler
22. (22.) Robert Guerrero
23. (23.) Daniel Ponce De Leon
24. (24.) Kazuto Ioka
25. (25.) Miguel Cotto
26. (26.) Daniel Geale
27. (16.) Orlando Salido
28. (27.) Saul Alvarez
29. (29.) Yoan Pablo Hernandez
30. (30.) Toshiyuki Igarashi

didn't do shit to the last 10 cause it's so interchangeable.

I wouldn't argue with your changes, I can see where you are coming from.