Froch has achieved a lot more than Kessler has since their fight though.
World Top 30 P4P January 2013
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Andre Ward
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Carl Froch
9. Abner Mares
10. Brian Viloria
11. Timothy Bradley
12. Vitali Klitschko
13. Yuriorkis Gamboa
14. Anselmo Moreno
15. Chad Dawson
16. Orlando Salido
17. Austin Trout
18. Bernard Hopkins
19. Danny Garcia
20. Lucas Matthysse
21. Mikkel Kessler
22. Robert Guerrero
23. Daniel Ponce De Leon
24. Kazuto Ioka
25. Miguel Cotto
26. Daniel Geale
27. Saul Alvarez
28. Tomasz Adamek
29. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
30. Toshiyuki Igarashi
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Andre Ward
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Carl Froch
9. Abner Mares
10. Brian Viloria
11. Timothy Bradley
12. Vitali Klitschko
13. Yuriorkis Gamboa
14. Anselmo Moreno
15. Chad Dawson
16. Orlando Salido
17. Austin Trout
18. Bernard Hopkins
19. Danny Garcia
20. Lucas Matthysse
21. Mikkel Kessler
22. Robert Guerrero
23. Daniel Ponce De Leon
24. Kazuto Ioka
25. Miguel Cotto
26. Daniel Geale
27. Saul Alvarez
28. Tomasz Adamek
29. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
30. Toshiyuki Igarashi
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Who has he beaten?Where's Roman Gonzalez? He is a cert for a top 15 place, no?
You might be right. I think it is very close between the three of them.Agree that Froch is too high. Viloria and especially Mares have better recent records (especially if you still rate Moreno).
Yes, maybe he should be higher.Matthysse is arguably undefeated, so he should definitely move up
I scored it to Adamek by one point, but I seem to be in a very small minority with that opinion.Oh, and Adamek was spanked in his last fight too. He hasn't looked good for years
Has he beaten anyone better than Sithsamerchai? Why hasn't he ever unified?As for Gonzalez, he has spanked pretty much everyone he has met. He has a better record than Ioka at the weight for sure. I can't see how you could have Gonzalez below Ioka and Igarashi. Makes no sense to me
It is a close contest between the top 4. I think any of them would be a reasonable P4P No. 1 on someone's list.I just can't see how anyone could have Ward higher than Donaire.
If Ward had beaten Dawson at 175 (as he should've done) then maybe but Donaire has just as many quality wins but more in number and more titles (regardless of what you think of them) in several weight classes.
Don't get me wrong Ward is exceptional but higher than Donaire? Not for me. Destroying Nishioka in his weight class is a far better weight than destroying a shell of Dawson. The Arce win is better than Bika/Green and just as good as Abraham IMO.
I rate Ward's recent opposition as being slightly better, as Froch and Dawson were arguably top 10 P4P fighters when he fought them.
He just missed out. He could do with another big win.Takashi Uchiyama should be in there, he certainly is better than some of those from 20-30 on your list, and is the top 130 pounder around.
Yes, I do hold it against him. Minimumweight and Light Flyweight are arguably the two most insignificant weight divisions in boxing, he really should be unifying the titles.You're holding it against him because he hasn't unified? Even tho he is a two weight world champion?
Hopkins has many major wins in his career. Gonzalez has a good win against Niida over 4 years ago, with no single big win since, only a lot of decent opponents.Yet you have Gamboa just outside of the top 10, despite his inactivity? I just don't understand the logic of not having one of the hardest hitting p4p fighters, who is a two weight world champion, undefeated and has blasted through pretty much everyone in the division, but you'd have someone like Hopkins who has had 1 meaningful win in 3 years, and Adamak who was soundly dominated by Cunningham, Vitali and was probably beaten by a one armed Arreola and Eddie Chambers
Hopefully the fight against Ioka happens, so he can make it clear whether he deserves to be considered a top P4P fighter or not.
Hasegawa should be higher than Ioka? His form is too bad to be above Ioka.There is no way that the current top two Japanese boxers are Ioka and Igarashi. Uchiyama, Sato, Yamanaka and Hasegawa all deserve to be ranked higher than them, IMO.
Mthalane deserves a place in the top 30 for me.
Uchiyama is the closest to a place in the top 30 out of that lot in my opinion.
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