[welsh_dragon83]

Naz's punching power on a p4p level?

 

[JohnH]

British? About 50th or 60th.

 

[Guest]

British? About 50th or 60th.

Who are the 50 above him.

 

[stevebhoy87]

Extremely high, Naz was a freakish puncher

 

[JohnH]

Who are the 50 above him.

Actually i think it may be 100.

 

[Scorpio78]

Very highly
Can't really give it a ranking but he is prob top 5/10 British

 

[Vano-irons]

Yeah very high indeed. He didn't even set his feet half the time and he generated huge power.

Some way behind Wilde and Fitzsimmons

 

[dkos]

British? About 50th or 60th.

What!? :lol::stonk

 

[welsh_dragon83]

Actually i think it may be 100.

Are you for fucking real? Name the 99

 

[welsh_dragon83]

Yeah very high indeed. He didn't even set his feet half the time and he generated huge power.

Some way behind Wilde and Fitzsimmons

That's the thing he was off balance for most of his shots, even the ones he knocked people out with

 

[JohnH]

Are you for fucking real? Name the 99

:thumbsup

 

[davez]

I think he had accurate and freakish angles of punches and a unique style that was really difficult to plan and prepare for. he'd catch fighters from all sorts of crazy angles that opponents simply couldn't answer or simply didn't plan for. that's what made him exciting to watch. he did have power I'm not disputing that but he was a one in a million type of fighter. he was also a showman who played the camera and audience.

he won me over and got me watching boxing regularly instead of just watching the odd fight here and there. I cant rank him don't how to

 

[welsh_dragon83]

:thumbsup

They on the way are they?

 

[JohnH]

They on the way are they?

Haha. No.

 

[BoltonTerrier]

Top 5 without a doubt..

 

[One to watch]

Fuck knows?

Compare Lennox Lewis to hamed.who is p4p a bigger hitter,cos Lennox could bang.

Wilde and fitzimmons have been mentioned,what about other old timers?,and what about Nigel benn? What about David haye?

 

[kingkodi]

Has to be up there. Ring magazine had him 46th all time in 2003.

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_punchers.htm

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed

 

[Peter Barlow]

Julian Jackson should be P4P 1 of all time.

 

[dkos]

1. Wayne Alexander
2. Paup Snith
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Joe Calzaghe (pre-brittle hands)
5. Pat Barrett
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Lee Selby
8. Naseem Hamed
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Joe Louis (UK version)

 

[Marvelous Marv]

Ranked relative to what?

In general terms, very high. A combination of things lead me to think that. He wasn't the best at setting up his work. He worked in fits and starts, he wasn't a fluid puncher so to fight in such an unorthodox way and display such regular fight ending power is unusual. Secondly, he had stoppages that immediately stand out as being a top puncher, they weren't all ref stepped in/attritional stoppages.

You could look at his unorthdoxy the other way, he probably was able to land weird punches that surprised opponents more regularly which may prompt a line of thinking which says he wasn't a freakish puncher but managed to catch people very clean without them seeing. I think that argument is tenuous though.