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Jesus christ thought this was some sort of Joke. Video looks like it was made with people from a special needs school.

Funny part is Quigg "You got to trust Joe, i do trust him, if he told me to jump off a building i'd do it cause i trust him" :rofl:rofl:rofl

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He gets underrated on here, he's done a great job with several fighters and knows his stuff. A couple of years ago a lot of his fighters had no defensive nous but nowadays you see his fighters with more versatility
 
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Gary Barlow said:
Why don't we wait and see how they do in world titles. If Paul Smith wins i will give him a MBE.
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:lol: Tbf Macklin got done against Sturm so he should have had one. I agree getting them world titles is key but I didnt think Crolla would have been a dead cert for British Champion at Super feather but hes done a great job up at lightweight, Quigg has come on leaps and bounds etc. He has a blue chip prospect in Smith, will be good to see how he handles him
 
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Fredo Warren said:
Gallagher very under rated on this forum. To many let personality get in the way when forming an opinion on ability.
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Frankly you have no clue as anyone does how good he is, i used to remember the love in with Booth, all because of Haye & Groves. You people talk like coaches play a huge part in a fighter, they don't. The fighter either has the ability or doesn't, a trainer can't turn a shit fighter into good one.

Even if we agreed with your delusion, how the hell would you know how good his ability is vs other trainers, when you never been to his gym and watched everyday how he operates.
 
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Gary Barlow said:
Frankly you have no clue as anyone does how good he is, i used to remember the love in with Booth, all because of Haye & Groves. You people talk like coaches play a huge part in a fighter, they don't. The fighter either has the ability or doesn't, a trainer can't turn a shit fighter into good one.

Even if we agreed with your delusion, how the hell would you know how good his ability is vs other trainers, when you never been to his gym and watched everyday how he operates.
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How can you say coaches don't play a big part in a fighter?

It's proven in every sport that a great coach makes a huge difference to individuals and teams.
 
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The fact is Gallagher has done nothing with a fighter at the elite level, he's not trained one proper world champion yet, he clearly isn't an awful trainer but he's had several really bad performances in the corner, Quigg vs Sallinas and Murray vs Rios spring to mind. He also doesn't seem to have the ability to train his fighters to have head movement i can't think of a Gallagher fighter who has good head movement? He's clearly holding back his fighters careers turning down good fights that will help them progress just so he can keep his stupid winning streak against a list of nobodies. His Ego and his talk far outweigh what he's done as a trainer and really Gallagher needs to just STFU and do what's best for his fighters because he turns the fans off the lads he trains.
 
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Gary Barlow said:
Frankly you have no clue as anyone does how good he is, i used to remember the love in with Booth, all because of Haye & Groves. You people talk like coaches play a huge part in a fighter, they don't. The fighter either has the ability or doesn't, a trainer can't turn a shit fighter into good one.

Even if we agreed with your delusion, how the hell would you know how good his ability is vs other trainers, when you never been to his gym and watched everyday how he operates.
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You can have your opinion, but you don't need to act like such a bell end.
 
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onourway said:
How can you say coaches don't play a big part in a fighter?

It's proven in every sport that a great coach makes a huge difference to individuals and teams.
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Im sorry how has it been proven, Boxing is very different to any other sport, a fighting sport is not like football, cricket or rugby.

Do you think Mayweather who is greatest fighter on the planet, who is trained by a combo of his father & uncle both who are not rated trainers. But he doesn't need them, he is what he is down to his NATURAL ABILITY.

I agree a "good coach" can get a small imrpovement out a british level fighter, but you don't train world champions and no one coach is miles ahead of another, it all comes down to being born with the talent. Just like a footballer, do you think Messi is what he is down to a certain coach? of course not cause if it was we have many other messi's off that coach.
 
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Gary Barlow said:
Im sorry how has it been proven, Boxing is very different to any other sport, a fighting sport is not like football, cricket or rugby.

Do you think Mayweather who is greatest fighter on the planet, who is trained by a combo of his father & uncle both who are not rated trainers. But he doesn't need them, he is what he is down to his NATURAL ABILITY.

I agree a "good coach" can get a small imrpovement out a british level fighter, but you don't train world champions and no one coach is miles ahead of another, it all comes down to being born with the talent. Just like a footballer, do you think Messi is what he is down to a certain coach? of course not cause if it was we have many other messi's off that coach.
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Why would boxing be any different to any other sport? :huh Is it different to tennis?

So Mayweather being trained by two professional boxers since he was a child had no impact on how good he is today?

When Messi was 'coached' by Maradona, he was awful. The coach still has to find a way to get the best out of Messi despite his obvious natural talent.
 
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Well you agree Mayweather is the best fighter on the planet, if coaching is so important then his father & uncle make manny stewart, freddie roach, joe gallagher and anyone else a long way 2nd best.

Ive no doubt that Mayweather would remain unbeaten even if he was coached by someone off this forum.
 
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Gary Barlow said:
Im sorry how has it been proven, Boxing is very different to any other sport, a fighting sport is not like football, cricket or rugby.

Do you think Mayweather who is greatest fighter on the planet, who is trained by a combo of his father & uncle both who are not rated trainers. But he doesn't need them, he is what he is down to his NATURAL ABILITY.

I agree a "good coach" can get a small imrpovement out a british level fighter, but you don't train world champions and no one coach is miles ahead of another, it all comes down to being born with the talent. Just like a footballer, do you think Messi is what he is down to a certain coach? of course not cause if it was we have many other messi's off that coach.
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Boxing is totally different though. Playing football is easy, the best will be better naturally as it is basic motor skills. Boxing is complex at every point, I doubt there has ever been one fighter who ever walked into a gym with good punch form, good footwork, head movement or tactical nous. They may be quick or have power and be predisposed to being great but you need people who can train the skills into you
 
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Gary Barlow said:
Frankly you have no clue as anyone does how good he is, i used to remember the love in with Booth, all because of Haye & Groves. You people talk like coaches play a huge part in a fighter, they don't. The fighter either has the ability or doesn't, a trainer can't turn a shit fighter into good one.

Even if we agreed with your delusion, how the hell would you know how good his ability is vs other trainers, when you never been to his gym and watched everyday how he operates.
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Bit harsh!
 
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