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#61 ·
gumbo2176 said:
UFC puts me in mind of 2 highly skilled street fighters and the only rules they have to obey are, No Biting, No Kicking In The Nuts, and No Eye Gouging. Other than that, it seems anything goes.
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No small joint manipulation.

No back-of-the-head or spine/throat strikes.

No kicking or kneeing the head of a downed opponent. :good

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#62 ·
Boxing's biggest problem is the promoters and fighters being absolute pussies. The UFC didn't string along McGregor and the likes for years to make shitloads of money and then make a big fight like boxing does. I'm sick to the fucking teeth of boxing's excuses. Promoters not working each other, hiding behind television deals and letting fights marinate. Not every big fight needs to be a massive fuckin event.

Boxing has definitely fallen behind in terms of popularity I'd say now. In my experience anyway. People could name more UFC fighters than they could active boxers.

Boxing has itself to blame for this.
 
#64 ·
jonnytightlips said:
Boxing's biggest problem is the promoters and fighters being absolute pussies. The UFC didn't string along McGregor and the likes for years to make shitloads of money and then make a big fight like boxing does. I'm sick to the fucking teeth of boxing's excuses. Promoters not working each other, hiding behind television deals and letting fights marinate. Not every big fight needs to be a massive fuckin event.

Boxing has definitely fallen behind in terms of popularity I'd say now. In my experience anyway. People could name more UFC fighters than they could active boxers.

Boxing has itself to blame for this.
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Boxing is too widespread for one bald fuck like White to control it all.

I agree with you though, these promoters are killing the sport with the way they do business.
 
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Pedrin1787 said:
Boxing is too widespread for one bald fuck like White to control it all.

I agree with you though, these promoters are killing the sport with the way they do business.
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I know. But one governing body would help a lot. I've seen people bring up the argument before that it helps sales of a fight if there is a belt of some sort on the line but I think that's bollocks as well. At the end of the day do fans really give a fuck about alphabet trinkets. I don't think so.

Fact is throughout every division there are good fights to be made. For example, the likes of David Lemieux, Andy Lee, Curtis Stevens and BJS might never win a title again and in Stevens case ever but why not have these people fight each other. You'd be fairly confident of none of them ever getting in the ring with each other.

On the middleweight division a few years ago you had Barker, Murray, Macklin, Lee all campaigning around the world level and not one fight between those got made which is a fuckin joke.
 
#67 ·
Haggis said:
Any UFC champion is the champion of the world. They have a near-monopoly on the world's best fighters in every division, and nobody outside of their org has access to a strong enough pool of opponents to be considered more of The Man than his division's UFC kingpin. The only big-name guy who is percieved as a potential UFC champion who has never fought in the org, is Ben Askren. And his ONE FC pool of opponents is absolutely nothing compared to the monsters at the top of the UFC WW division. Rory McDonald is easily Bellator's highest-ranked guy, and he came up (juuuust) short in his UFC title shot last year.

Also McGregor in particular has a lot of power over choosing his own opponents. FAR more than basically any other UFC fighter.

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Disagree, Pride by far had the best fighters. UFC rules cater to grapplers, as compared to others where you can punish stuffed takedowns.
 
#70 ·
paloalto00 said:
This was like watching two drunks outside the bar
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Alvarez is a wrestler first and a Mixed martial artist second, McGregor was a boxer first and a martial artist second, it shows, the casuals are mesmerised that Conor decked Eddie so easy

Yet they now think Conor could stand a chance against Mayweather because he knocked out Alvarez


Eddies trainer Mark Henry, after saying McGregor couldn't box with Alvarez (a wrestler) the KO result suddenly changed his mind to McGregor being able to beat Mayweather in boxing
 
#72 ·
Haggis said:
No small joint manipulation.

No back-of-the-head or spine/throat strikes.

No kicking or kneeing the head of a downed opponent. :good

:hat
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Absolutely, I think Tito Ortiz in his prime would have manhandled Lee Murray in the octagon, but on the streets in a scrap, he "Lit up Tito like a Christmas tree"

There are some animals out there who would literally bite half your face off given the chance, I guess Murray coming out to the Octagon in a hannibal mask wasn't just for show
 
#73 ·
The Kraken said:
Alvarez is a wrestler first and a Mixed martial artist second, McGregor was a boxer first and a martial artist second, it shows, the casuals are mesmerised that Conor decked Eddie so easy

Yet they now think Conor could stand a chance against Mayweather because he knocked out Alvarez


Eddies trainer Mark Henry, after saying McGregor couldn't box with Alvarez (a wrestler) the KO result suddenly changed his mind to McGregor being able to beat Mayweather in boxing
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I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the MMA community doesn't know shit, coaches and fighters includeded
 
#77 ·
paloalto00 said:
Disagree, Pride by far had the best fighters. UFC rules cater to grapplers, as compared to others where you can punish stuffed takedowns.
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PRIDE doesn't exist anymore, and hasn't for years. When PRIDE collapsed, the UFC wasn't even on Fox yet.

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