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Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, WBO & IBO) vs. Oleksandr Usyk (18-0) - September 25th 2021

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Joshua vs. Uysk Winner and How?

  • Anthony Joshua Stoppage

    Votes: 23 32%

  • Anthony Joshua Decision

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • Oleksandr Usyk Decision

    Votes: 24 33%

  • Oleksandr Usyk Stoppage

    Votes: 21 29%
  • Total voters
    73
  • Poll closed .
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#244 ·
Cableaddict said:
Most commonly-accepted P4P guys have completely dominated at least 2 divisions.

Just beating AJ doesn't quite get it done.
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Canelo hasn't really dominated 160 or 154, though. Arguably lost to Lara and Golovkin. Usyk has dominated just about everyone except Briedis.
 
#245 ·
I think Usyk would be great in the old days when HW were in the 14-15 stone range and could easily be HW champ. I just don't think he will be able to live with the power AJ has at 17 stone. Obviously I'm in the minority as there is a 2-1 vote in favor of Usyk but this site has always been pretty anti-AJ. I presume there will be a rematch clause so if Usyk wins we will see a second fight in likely Feb. I would expect that if AJ were to lose both he would retire and the Usyk will fight the winner of Fury/Wilder III for the Undisputed in July/August 2021 in Vegas.
 
#246 ·
Let's see we have an unbeaten Eastern euro master boxer with literally zero weaknesses, An ATG resume and papachenko in his corner vs a big stiff, chinny bodybuilder with no stamina.

Oh really hard pick yeah I might go Usyk ko.
 
#249 · (Edited)
Ar558a said:
I think Usyk would be great in the old days when HW were in the 14-15 stone range and could easily be HW champ. I just don't think he will be able to live with the power AJ has at 17 stone. Obviously I'm in the minority as there is a 2-1 vote in favor of Usyk but this site has always been pretty anti-AJ. I presume there will be a rematch clause so if Usyk wins we will see a second fight in likely Feb. I would expect that if AJ were to lose both he would retire and the Usyk will fight the winner of Fury/Wilder III for the Undisputed in July/August 2021 in Vegas.
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I agree that Usyk may not quite have the power to slug it out with the likes of AJ, Fury, Wilder, etc. Bit two points:

1: Usyk is the same weight & has the same reach as Holyfield in his prime, and is 1/2" taller.

2: Usyk could conceivably dominate by winning decisions. I expect he will UD Aj with relative ease.

But a few things work against this:

1: He's already 34 years old. Not a good thing when your success depends on athleticism and reflexes.

2: Every fight that goes to the cards is at the mercy of the monsters that run things. IMO, boxing today is more corrupt than at any time in history. They barely even try to hide it any longer.
- Expect Usyk to beat AJ on points, then "lose" to AJ on point in the rematch, then everybody gets rich off of the lucrative trilogy.
Meanwhile, neither of them has to face Wilder or Fury. YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#250 ·
Cableaddict said:
I agree that Usk may not quite have the power to slug it out with the likes of AJ, Dury, Wilder, etc. Bit two points:

1: Usk is the same weight & has the same reach as Holyfield in his prime, and is 1/2" taller.

2: Usyk could conceivably dominate by winning decisions. I expect he will UD Aj with relative ease.

But a few things work against this:

1: He's already 34 years old. Not a good thing when your success depnds on athleticism and reflexes.

2: Every fight that goes to the cards is at the mercy of the monsters that run things. IMO, boxing today is more corrupt than at any time in history. They barely even try to hide it any longer.
- Expect Usyk to beat AJ on points, then "lose" to AJ on point in the rematch, then everybody gets rich off of the lucrative trilogy.
Meanwhile, neither of them has to face Wilder or Fury. YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Usyk will stop Joshua unless Joshua fights super cautious and runs a lot, he will be tagging him with big shots frequently, and yeah his lack of size will allow The bodybuilder to take a couple more shots than he would vs a full sized heavy but after taking a few clean he will start to crumble, his chin is made from the finest bone China
 
#252 ·
Armhit said:
Usyk will stop Joshua unless Joshua fights super cautious and runs a lot, he will be tagging him with big shots frequently, and yeah his lack of size will allow The bodybuilder to take a couple more shots than he would vs a full sized heavy but after taking a few clean he will start to crumble, his chin is made from the finest bone China
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Outside of the Temple shot from Ruiz, AJ has survived being rocked by both Wlad and Povetkin, Usyk will have less power than both of them as a much small HW so I wouldn't be so confident on the collapse.
 
#253 ·
Mexi-Box said:
My dad was pissed when I said this fight was happening. Said Usyk is too small and this will look like Canelo/Khan :lol:.
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Nah

Usyk is like 215-220 naturally

The bodybuilder fights in the 230s when he eases up just a little bit on the weights and comes in closer to his "natural" weight.

If the bodybuilder got off the juice and dropped the weights he would probably weigh about 225

These two are close in terms of natural size, Usyk is bigger than the likes of Povetkin and Takam and it weren't size that won AJ them fights.

The bodybuilder will be swinging and missing, he will start breathing heavily and shipping more shots, then probably quit again imo.
 
#254 ·
With HW's fighting a smaller guy can be a disadvantage as they can get inside easier by slipping under the punches, AJ struggled against Takam and Povetkin and Fury struggled with Cunningham

Usyk's gameplan has to be the straight left to AJ's body, if he can slip under the jab and avoid the uppercut and land it he can slow him down by landing it consistently

Once AJ feels the left hitting the body I dont think he will load up and go for the KO he will panic, when Ruiz was stabbing him to the body AJ froze up big time but yeah this is definitely 50/50 for me whoever has the better gameplan wins
 
#259 · (Edited)
Armhit said:
The bodybuilder to take a couple more shots than he would vs a full sized heavy but after taking a few clean he will start to crumble, his chin is made from the finest bone China
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I dunno where you get the idea that AJ has a suspect chin. He took some HUGE shots from Wlad and kept going.
And in the first Ruiz fight, the initial KD only happened after basically three flush hooks in a row. - And Fat Andy can BANG.

Bone China?
 
#260 ·
Cableaddict said:
I dunno where you get the idea that AJ has a suspect chin. He took some HUGE shots from Wlad and kept going.
And in the first Ruiz fight, the initial KD only happened after basically three flush hooks in a row. - And Fat Andy can BANG.

Bone China?
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Fat Andy cannot bang, other than AJ he has no notable stoppages and he got beat the fuck up in exchanges with a 40 year old Areolla until Areolla gassed, you know, because he's 40.

Ruiz Jr is just an average heavy who got massively overrated because he caught the chinny fraud.
 
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