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The final punch that landed which caused the knock down was clearly after bell, doesn't matter if it was part of a combo or when it was thrown, it landed after the bell. Uzcategui had already been warned for landing after the bell in a previous round too.

I don't agree with the DQ decision but it definitely shouldn't of been a KO win for Uzcategui like some have suggested. It was an accidental foul so should've went to the scorecards.
Yeah your probably right, scorecards or a nc for Dirrell being such a bitch and not carrying on. I've watched it back and can't believe that he was talking to his corner and then just face planted, it's fucking embarrassing! Surely the muppet will realise that there are dozens of cameras on him picking up all what he says and does and he now just looks an even bigger coward than he did before with his bullshit antics.

Has there been any interviews after backstage or anything? Will be interesting if he plays the 'I don't know what was happening' card again. Fucking pathetic and he shouldn't be anywhere near televised boxing and big pay days, never mind a world title shot.
 
Yeah your probably right, scorecards or a nc for Dirrell being such a bitch and not carrying on. I've watched it back and can't believe that he was talking to his corner and then just face planted, it's fucking embarrassing! Surely the muppet will realise that there are dozens of cameras on him picking up all what he says and does and he now just looks an even bigger coward than he did before with his bullshit antics.

Has there been any interviews after backstage or anything? Will be interesting if he plays the 'I don't know what was happening' card again. Fucking pathetic and he shouldn't be anywhere near televised boxing and big pay days, never mind a world title shot.
Yeah he said he couldn't remember anything that happened after the punch landed. I always want to give fighters the benefit of the doubt in these situations and the knockdown was a heavy one but with Dirrell's previous its hard to think he didn't just take the easy way out.

The ref ballsed that up big time, he called it a flagrant foul when it was clearly accidental.
 
Yeah he said he couldn't remember anything that happened after the punch landed. I always want to give fighters the benefit of the doubt in these situations and the knockdown was a heavy one but with Dirrell's previous its hard to think he didn't just take the easy way out.

The ref ballsed that up big time, he called it a flagrant foul when it was clearly accidental.
Well hopefully he watches the video in the morning with his head in his hands after seeing he clearly talks to his team on whether to take a dive or not. He got caught marginally after the bell but he's the fucking cheat IMO. Really don't like the whole team.
 
Im not fully sure what the official ruling is for a accidental KO after the bell but you would thibk the ref would give the oppoent five minutes to see if he can continue then look to restart before calling it off.

Then if it was called off then you either go to a technical decision or NC the fight. The ref watched Dirrell have a full discussion whether to dive or not then take a woeful dive then went over and asked 'if youwant to get up or should I dq the guy'.

Pathetic officiating tbh. Hopefully he cops a suspension but I wont bet on it, the ref very rarely get pulled for cocking up, in fact I cant think of a single case in the pros?

Dirrell got caught out as well, that discussion is enough evidence to call him in on foul play. He should also cop a ban and the fight be ruled an ND. Uzcategai moves into the mandatory position.

The uncle should get a lifetime ban from boxing and then whatever he gets in the criminal courts and a ban for the other Dirrell aswell. Send a message that this shit isnt tolerated.

But its boxing so theyll probably call a rematch with no discouragement of their behavoir and the uncle will get a slap on the wrist.
 
Im not fully sure what the official ruling is for a accidental KO after the bell but you would thibk the ref would give the oppoent five minutes to see if he can continue then look to restart before calling it off.

Then if it was called off then you either go to a technical decision or NC the fight. The ref watched Dirrell have a full discussion whether to dive or not then take a woeful dive then went over and asked 'if youwant to get up or should I dq the guy'.

Pathetic officiating tbh. Hopefully he cops a suspension but I wont bet on it, the ref very rarely get pulled for cocking up, in fact I cant think of a single case in the pros?

Dirrell got caught out as well, that discussion is enough evidence to call him in on foul play. He should also cop a ban and the fight be ruled an ND. Uzcategai moves into the mandatory position.

The uncle should get a lifetime ban from boxing and then whatever he gets in the criminal courts and a ban for the other Dirrell aswell. Send a message that this shit isnt tolerated.

But its boxing so theyll probably call a rematch with no discouragement of their behavoir and the uncle will get a slap on the wrist.
If its ruled an accidental foul (like it should've been) then the ref should give Dirrell five minutes to recover and get the doctor to check to see if he can continue. If he can then give Uzcategui a harsh punishment like two points off and if he can't then they go to the score cards after four rounds.

That's what should've happened but even that accidental foul rule is shit. If a fighter genuinly can't continue after an accidental foul then the fight should always be ruled a no contest. Going to the cards gives one fighter a way out if he knows he's ahead or gives the other an undeserved win.
 
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Just watched the end again probably to wind myself up. Dirrell clearly is being spoken to from ringside and says "What?...what do I do?" Before assuming the Jo Guest position face first so loved by @Chinny. Cheating bastards.
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http://www.mlive.com/sports/flint/index.ssf/2017/05/its_wrong_but_andre_dirrells_f.html

It's wrong, but Andre Dirrell's family reacted like most inner-city families

By Eric Woodyard | ewoodyar@mlive.com
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on May 21, 2017 at 5:38 PM, updated May 21, 2017 at 5:40 PM



If you're from the inner city of Flint, or any urban area for that matter, you know there's one golden rule when you're rolling out somewhere in public with family: If one fights, you all fight.

Right or wrong, these rules are embedded in you from day one. Point, blank, period.

And if you don't help, you don't want to be that one that has to come home and face the adults.

I'll put it like this, it won't be a pretty sight.

So, as I watched the post-fight shenanigans that occurred in Oxon Hill, Maryland, Saturday evening after Flint boxer Andre Dirrell's IBF super middleweight championship victory by way of disqualification, initially I felt embarrassed like the rest of the world.

Seeing his brothers, Anthony and Willie, being restrained near ringside then watching his uncle/trainer Leon Lawson Jr. enter the ring to clock Venezuelan boxer Jose Uzcategui with a cheap shot was totally unnecessary.

But then I sat back, thought about it and realized that they were just behaving like most tight-knit black families tend to do in the hood. We take care of our own and won't allow any disrespect -- right or wrong. Family is all that we have.

Imagine seeing your nephew stretched out in the ring to end the eighth round as the result of a cheap shot for the second time in his career.

Flint's Andre Dirrell wins IBF title by disqualification, family reacts violently

If you remember, this wasn't the first time that Dirrell has been socked with an illegal punch.

On March 27, 2010, Arthur Abraham was also disqualified for hitting Dirrell after he slipped on the canvas in the 11th round at Detroit's Joe Louis Arena, which caused neurological damage to the 2004 Olympic bronze medalist.

Rebounding from that trauma was definitely a setback as he experienced frequent light-headedness and dizziness. For a family as close as the Dirrells and Lawsons, that process was draining.

How do I know? I've been there. If you're ever around Andre Dirrell you will get to know his family and friends supporting him, starting with his grandfather Leon "Bumper" Lawson, who was Muhammad Ali's lifelong friend.

Then there's Lawson Jr.; brothers, Anthony and Willie; his mother, Lola; two-time Olympic gold medalist Claressa Shields; his sisters; aunties; cousins; nephews; friends; and of course his wife, Alaia; and their three children. They all roll deep like that and they are all feisty from the youngest to the oldest.

So, you must understand their family dynamic to recognize what happened after Saturday's championship bout.

To the world, Lawson may be viewed as a coward for catching Uzcategui off guard, but knowing the type of guy he is, I know he was simply trying to protect his nephew by getting street justice.

This was no different than when Floyd Mayweather's uncle/trainer, Roger, started a 10th round brawl by climbing into the ring to confront Zab Judah for a blatant low blow shot in 2006. Unfortunately, professional boxing isn't the place to bring those street ethics. You have to sustain some sort of professionalism and class being in their position in the face of adversity, which obviously didn't happen Saturday.

Lawson is currently wanted on two assault charges by Prince George's County Police for his sucker punch, per ESPN. We all saw what happened and there is no excuse for that sort of behavior, but if you're from where we're from you can relate.

Hell, even my own mom agreed that there's no way she could've witnessed me laid out on the canvas in a championship match after taking a foul shot without reacting similarly, but that doesn't make it right.

I'm not taking that stance because Lawson deserves to face the consequences for his actions.

It's unfortunate that Dirrell had to claim his first world title in such controversy, but put yourself in his family's shoes for one moment and ask yourself, "what would you do?" then maybe you can understand.

 
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http://www.mlive.com/sports/flint/index.ssf/2017/05/its_wrong_but_andre_dirrells_f.html

It's wrong, but Andre Dirrell's family reacted like most inner-city families

By Eric Woodyard | ewoodyar@mlive.com
Follow on Twitter
on May 21, 2017 at 5:38 PM, updated May 21, 2017 at 5:40 PM

If you're from the inner city of Flint, or any urban area for that matter, you know there's one golden rule when you're rolling out somewhere in public with family: If one fights, you all fight.

Right or wrong, these rules are embedded in you from day one. Point, blank, period.

And if you don't help, you don't want to be that one that has to come home and face the adults.

I'll put it like this, it won't be a pretty sight.

So, as I watched the post-fight shenanigans that occurred in Oxon Hill, Maryland, Saturday evening after Flint boxer Andre Dirrell's IBF super middleweight championship victory by way of disqualification, initially I felt embarrassed like the rest of the world.

Seeing his brothers, Anthony and Willie, being restrained near ringside then watching his uncle/trainer Leon Lawson Jr. enter the ring to clock Venezuelan boxer Jose Uzcategui with a cheap shot was totally unnecessary.

But then I sat back, thought about it and realized that they were just behaving like most tight-knit black families tend to do in the hood. We take care of our own and won't allow any disrespect -- right or wrong. Family is all that we have.

Imagine seeing your nephew stretched out in the ring to end the eighth round as the result of a cheap shot for the second time in his career.

Flint's Andre Dirrell wins IBF title by disqualification, family reacts violently

If you remember, this wasn't the first time that Dirrell has been socked with an illegal punch.

On March 27, 2010, Arthur Abraham was also disqualified for hitting Dirrell after he slipped on the canvas in the 11th round at Detroit's Joe Louis Arena, which caused neurological damage to the 2004 Olympic bronze medalist.

Rebounding from that trauma was definitely a setback as he experienced frequent light-headedness and dizziness. For a family as close as the Dirrells and Lawsons, that process was draining.

How do I know? I've been there. If you're ever around Andre Dirrell you will get to know his family and friends supporting him, starting with his grandfather Leon "Bumper" Lawson, who was Muhammad Ali's lifelong friend.

Then there's Lawson Jr.; brothers, Anthony and Willie; his mother, Lola; two-time Olympic gold medalist Claressa Shields; his sisters; aunties; cousins; nephews; friends; and of course his wife, Alaia; and their three children. They all roll deep like that and they are all feisty from the youngest to the oldest.

So, you must understand their family dynamic to recognize what happened after Saturday's championship bout.

To the world, Lawson may be viewed as a coward for catching Uzcategui off guard, but knowing the type of guy he is, I know he was simply trying to protect his nephew by getting street justice.

This was no different than when Floyd Mayweather's uncle/trainer, Roger, started a 10th round brawl by climbing into the ring to confront Zab Judah for a blatant low blow shot in 2006. Unfortunately, professional boxing isn't the place to bring those street ethics. You have to sustain some sort of professionalism and class being in their position in the face of adversity, which obviously didn't happen Saturday.

Lawson is currently wanted on two assault charges by Prince George's County Police for his sucker punch, per ESPN. We all saw what happened and there is no excuse for that sort of behavior, but if you're from where we're from you can relate.

Hell, even my own mom agreed that there's no way she could've witnessed me laid out on the canvas in a championship match after taking a foul shot without reacting similarly, but that doesn't make it right.

I'm not taking that stance because Lawson deserves to face the consequences for his actions.

It's unfortunate that Dirrell had to claim his first world title in such controversy, but put yourself in his family's shoes for one moment and ask yourself, "what would you do?" then maybe you can understand.
African jungle law has no application in the boxing ring, it should be left in the jungles of africa and the african savanna .
 
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http://www.mlive.com/sports/flint/index.ssf/2017/05/its_wrong_but_andre_dirrells_f.html

It's wrong, but Andre Dirrell's family reacted like most inner-city families

By Eric Woodyard | ewoodyar@mlive.com
Follow on Twitter
on May 21, 2017 at 5:38 PM, updated May 21, 2017 at 5:40 PM

If you're from the inner city of Flint, or any urban area for that matter, you know there's one golden rule when you're rolling out somewhere in public with family: If one fights, you all fight.

Right or wrong, these rules are embedded in you from day one. Point, blank, period.

And if you don't help, you don't want to be that one that has to come home and face the adults.

I'll put it like this, it won't be a pretty sight.

So, as I watched the post-fight shenanigans that occurred in Oxon Hill, Maryland, Saturday evening after Flint boxer Andre Dirrell's IBF super middleweight championship victory by way of disqualification, initially I felt embarrassed like the rest of the world.

Seeing his brothers, Anthony and Willie, being restrained near ringside then watching his uncle/trainer Leon Lawson Jr. enter the ring to clock Venezuelan boxer Jose Uzcategui with a cheap shot was totally unnecessary.

But then I sat back, thought about it and realized that they were just behaving like most tight-knit black families tend to do in the hood. We take care of our own and won't allow any disrespect -- right or wrong. Family is all that we have.

Imagine seeing your nephew stretched out in the ring to end the eighth round as the result of a cheap shot for the second time in his career.

Flint's Andre Dirrell wins IBF title by disqualification, family reacts violently

If you remember, this wasn't the first time that Dirrell has been socked with an illegal punch.

On March 27, 2010, Arthur Abraham was also disqualified for hitting Dirrell after he slipped on the canvas in the 11th round at Detroit's Joe Louis Arena, which caused neurological damage to the 2004 Olympic bronze medalist.

Rebounding from that trauma was definitely a setback as he experienced frequent light-headedness and dizziness. For a family as close as the Dirrells and Lawsons, that process was draining.

How do I know? I've been there. If you're ever around Andre Dirrell you will get to know his family and friends supporting him, starting with his grandfather Leon "Bumper" Lawson, who was Muhammad Ali's lifelong friend.

Then there's Lawson Jr.; brothers, Anthony and Willie; his mother, Lola; two-time Olympic gold medalist Claressa Shields; his sisters; aunties; cousins; nephews; friends; and of course his wife, Alaia; and their three children. They all roll deep like that and they are all feisty from the youngest to the oldest.

So, you must understand their family dynamic to recognize what happened after Saturday's championship bout.

To the world, Lawson may be viewed as a coward for catching Uzcategui off guard, but knowing the type of guy he is, I know he was simply trying to protect his nephew by getting street justice.

This was no different than when Floyd Mayweather's uncle/trainer, Roger, started a 10th round brawl by climbing into the ring to confront Zab Judah for a blatant low blow shot in 2006. Unfortunately, professional boxing isn't the place to bring those street ethics. You have to sustain some sort of professionalism and class being in their position in the face of adversity, which obviously didn't happen Saturday.

Lawson is currently wanted on two assault charges by Prince George's County Police for his sucker punch, per ESPN. We all saw what happened and there is no excuse for that sort of behavior, but if you're from where we're from you can relate.

Hell, even my own mom agreed that there's no way she could've witnessed me laid out on the canvas in a championship match after taking a foul shot without reacting similarly, but that doesn't make it right.

I'm not taking that stance because Lawson deserves to face the consequences for his actions.

It's unfortunate that Dirrell had to claim his first world title in such controversy, but put yourself in his family's shoes for one moment and ask yourself, "what would you do?" then maybe you can understand.
What a pile of shit!
You don't need to be black and from that area to have that attitude.
The whole point of boxing is to eliminate that shit.
Fucking wanker for writing that.
 
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