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#369 · (Edited)
Zopilote said:
Gods of Bantam
Coming back to rule the world
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There are some performances that are so once-in-a-lifetime that you just have to ignore excuses, opponents, everything.

Olivares-Rose is one of them.

Have you noticed that if you combine Marquez's high guard & combos and young Morales' in-and-out attack, you get a pale imitation of Olivares' onslaught?

Olivares' offense was so lethal it's easy to miss how left-hand-oriented he was.

No matter how many times Marquez beat Pacquiao - pre-Rudkin El Puas is still untouchable.

Have you seen the Kanazawa battle, Z?
The Japanese was fighting like his whole family just got hiroshima'd.
Defintely worth a look if you're an Olivares fan.
And I know you're.

The Ramirez KO.
The ultimate proof of Olivares' superiority over JC or simply the most improbably terrifying stoppage in boxing history?
 
#370 · (Edited)
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Lester1583 said:
There are some performances that are so once-in-a-lifetime that you just have to ignore excuses, opponents, everything.

Olivares-Rose is one of them.

Have you noticed that if you combine Marquez's high guard & combos and young Morales' in-and-out attack, you get a pale imitation of Olivares' onslaught?

Olivares' offense was so lethal it's easy to miss how left-hand-oriented he was.

No matter how many times Marquez beat Pacquiao - pre-Rudkin El Puas is still untouchable.

Have you seen the Kanazawa battle, Z?
The Japanese was fighting like his whole family just got hiroshima'd.
Defintely worth a look if you're an Olivares fan.
And I know you're.

The Ramirez KO.
The ultimate proof of Olivares' superiority over JC or simply the most improbably terrifying stoppage in boxing history?
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Yeh I seen the Kanazawa fight, I haven't seen the Ramirez KO tho! Never been able to find it, same with the Rudkin fight. You have no idea how much I suffer not being able to see those bouts! Speaking of terrifying stoppages, that KO against Alacran Torres was down right scary, man! Ruben was a destructive force to be reckoned with at his best.

I've always believed that if Puas was as disciplined as say Salvador Sanchez, he would easily be the Mexican GOAT, and possibly the Latino GOAT.
 
#371 · (Edited)
Zopilote said:
Never been able to find it, same with the Rudkin fight.
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It was televised so maybe there's still a hope.

Zopilote said:
Speaking of terrifying stoppages, that KO against Alacran Torres was down right scary, man! Ruben was a destructive force to be reckoned with at his best.
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Or when he walked right through Bobby Chacon.

Or when he made Burruni quit like he was nothing.

Or KO'd Kid Gavilan.

Olivares was a bad man.

Zopilote said:
I've always believed that if Puas was as disciplined as say Salvador Sanchez, he would easily be the Mexican GOAT, and possibly the Latino GOAT.
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I was about to agree with you but then I accidentally stumbled upon Saldivar - Ultiminio Ramos.

Haven't watched it in years.

My first reaction was:
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It's like Rigo-Donaire.
Only levels above.

Master-boxer dissecting a huge stalking fast puncher.

Totally forgot how good was Saldivar on the backfoot.

Some moves he was able to pull off - literally, no exaggeration, looked matadorish.

Check it out for youreself.
At 31:13 and 31:16:

A complete fighter, maybe even more versatile than Chavez, epic resume.

Retired almost undefeated, as arguably the P4P#1 in the world.

And yet is still underrated today.
 
#373 ·
Lester1583 said:
It was televised so maybe there's still a hope.

Or when he walked right through Bobby Chacon.

Or when he made Burruni quit like he was nothing.

Or KO'd Kid Gavilan.

Olivares was a bad man.

I was about to agree with you but then I accidentally stumbled upon Saldivar - Ultiminio Ramos.

Haven't watched it in years.

My first reaction was:
Image


It's like Rigo-Donaire.
Only levels above.

Master-boxer dissecting a huge stalking fast puncher.

Totally forgot how good was Saldivar on the backfoot.

Some moves he was able to pull off - literally, no exaggeration, looked matadorish.

Check it out for youreself.
At 31:13 and 31:16:

A complete fighter, maybe even more versatile than Chavez, epic resume.

Retired almost undefeated, as arguably the P4P#1 in the world.

And yet is still underrated today.
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People think Sanchez is the greatest Mexican featherweight of all time.

Saldivar came back from the dead and beat two fighters that would've been Hell for Sanchez.

Saldivar second only to Pep in my featherweight rankings.
 
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Lester1583 said:
It was televised so maybe there's still a hope.

Or when he walked right through Bobby Chacon.

Or when he made Burruni quit like he was nothing.

Or KO'd Kid Gavilan.

Olivares was a bad man.

I was about to agree with you but then I accidentally stumbled upon Saldivar - Ultiminio Ramos.

Haven't watched it in years.

My first reaction was:
Image


It's like Rigo-Donaire.
Only levels above.

Master-boxer dissecting a huge stalking fast puncher.

Totally forgot how good was Saldivar on the backfoot.

Some moves he was able to pull off - literally, no exaggeration, looked matadorish.

Check it out for youreself.
At 31:13 and 31:16:

A complete fighter, maybe even more versatile than Chavez, epic resume.

Retired almost undefeated, as arguably the P4P#1 in the world.

And yet is still underrated today.
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Great shout to Saldivar.

Along with Chavez and Olivares as the top 3 Mexican ATG locked.
 
#376 · (Edited)
Pac's spanish is better than his english...

There are still some people that consider Puas as the mexican GOAT, if only becouse how ridiculously stacked was both bantam and featherweight back then. He is definitively the bantamweight GOAT in my book tho...

Saldivar had insane skills, problem he got in his ATG stand is that he didnt fought as much as either Puas or El Cesar, so he dont got their record...
 
#377 · (Edited)
Vaitor said:
Saldivar had insane skills, problem he got in his ATG stand is that he didnt fought as much as either Puas or El Cesar, so he dont got his record...
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Saldivar doesn't need that.

He's basically the Leonard of Mexicans.
Only without ducking, gifts and losses in his prime.

Short career, almost no soft touches, H2H-beastness, great names, great comeback, rapid decline, embarrassing loss to an ATG.
 
#378 ·
Lester1583 said:
Saldivar doesn't need that.

He's basically the Leonard of Mexicans.
Only without ducking, gifts and losses in his prime.

Short career, almost no soft touches, H2H-beastness, great names, great comeback, rapid decline, embarrassing loss to an ATG.
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Damn, that Leonard comparison is accurate as fuck! :yep
 
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