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And not to go all the way in on ole Ricky, it seems obvious that he couldn't handle losing and the Floyd and Pac loses caused a huge downward spiral that lead to him turning to coke. I have no doubt that before he lost he was amazingly confident but I also have no doubt that those loses were devastating to him because he was so confident in himself. It was almost Rhonda Rouseyish, not nearly as bad though.
 
I agree he should have fought him. I can't stand the line of "I don't want to give him the payday". You're a fighter...fight the people who are ranked, who the fans want to see and absolutely those who you want to shut up. It is definitely a BIG black mark on Hatton's career, I just don't think he did it out of being scared.
I agree to disagree. Nothing in the world could ever make me believe otherwise. Nothing else makes sense and like you said, the payday bullshit was HORRIBLE!!!
 
And not to go all the way in on ole Ricky, it seems obvious that he couldn't handle losing and the Floyd and Pac loses caused a huge downward spiral that lead to him turning to coke. I have no doubt that before he lost he was amazingly confident but I also have no doubt that those loses were devastating to him because he was so confident in himself. It was almost Rhonda Rouseyish, not nearly as bad though.
Not really a fair comparison. After losing to PBF...he gave interviews and then went back into training, and 6 months later was back in the ring. After winning his comeback fight he went in with Malignaggi who at that point had only lost on points to Cotto. He beat him and then went and sought out the biggest and most dangerous opponent other than PBF...

Rousey lost once, fled from the cage, refused to do a post fight interview and vanished entirely for months and months on end. Returned with a refusal to speak to the media again, got wiped out and has vanished again.

Hatton never vanished or fled after the PBF loss. The total opposite in fact. He then got destroyed by Pac and did decide to call it a day. He was also definitely past his best by then, which is entirely his own fault due to his lifestyle. But even at this low time in his life he was available for interviews etc. And then he tried to come back again years later.

I don't see any real comparison.
 
Not really a fair comparison. After losing to PBF...he gave interviews and then went back into training, and 6 months later was back in the ring. After winning his comeback fight he went in with Malignaggi who at that point had only lost on points to Cotto. He beat him and then went and sought out the biggest and most dangerous opponent other than PBF...

Rousey lost once, fled from the cage, refused to do a post fight interview and vanished entirely for months and months on end. Returned with a refusal to speak to the media again, got wiped out and has vanished again.

Hatton never vanished or fled after the PBF loss. The total opposite in fact. He then got destroyed by Pac and did decide to call it a day. He was also definitely past his best by then, which is entirely his own fault due to his lifestyle. But even at this low time in his life he was available for interviews etc. And then he tried to come back again years later.

I don't see any real comparison.
It was more of the way his personal life feel apart. Like the way Rousey lost her movie and was talking suicide. Did Ricky say he was suicidal after the Pac fight? Like a said, not nearly as bad.
 
It was more of the way his personal life feel apart. Like the way Rousey lost her movie and was talking suicide. Did Ricky say he was suicidal after the Pac fight? Like a said, not nearly as bad.
Aye he definitely went on a bad one after that. But I think he was probably using a good while before that. He was already an alcoholic that's almost certain.
 
I'm calling it. Brook is going to duck and cite weight issues.

http://www.boxingscene.com/kell-brook-my-team-wants-me-go-154-pounds--112706
It's sad that Errol managed to make an entire division shook.
@shaunster101 why is Kell so afraid of Spence?
Fights the bum of the month club from Canada without any hang ups. Spends months trying to run away from Errol Spence. Accept it, Brook is going to duck like Canelo did to GGG.

IBF should just strip him and end this charade.
I'll believe it when I see it. Brook is going to worm his way out of this, just watch.


:doyenfingers

Only person going to worm out of this is Spence when he suddenly can't find his passport.
 
If true, great. Kell Brook has the great honor of joining other British boxing greats like Ricky Hatton and Carl Froch in getting dominated by superior American fighters.
Can't believe you missed Lacy schooling Joe C
 
If true, great. Kell Brook has the great honor of joining other British boxing greats like Ricky Hatton and Carl Froch in getting dominated by superior American fighters.
Hatton record vs American fighters:
Fought: 9
Won: 8
Lost: 1

Froch
Fought: 4
Won: 3
Lost: 1

Froch well and truly fucked those boys up too. One was so fucked up he shot his family, the other shot gay porn. #cobrad

Kell's already beaten the next great American, the mini Mike Tyson. Look forward to seeing the reaction when he beats this Spencer chap.
 
In fairness to @Atlanta and others giving Brook shit (myself included), Brook and his team had to be forced into this fight. If they hadn't received the criticism they did, they would have skipped him.

Super-chuffed that this is happening now, though!
I don't think the criticism was anywhere near vocal enough to force this fight to happen, it's happening because Brook wants to fight the best. Golovkin and now a hot prospect in Spence he could have easily skipped over. About time people got off his back, especially since it's questionable how easily he can make the weight now. Kudos to Brook, I'm favouring Spence ever so slightly at the moment.
 
Froch well and truly fucked those boys up too. One was so fucked up he shot his family, the other shot gay porn. #cobrad
That's one of the best lines I've ever read on this forum.
 
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