One of the most brutal fights I've ever seen. Emile Griffith alone didn't kill Paret IMO.
Downloading it now :good I just assumed it was only about the third Paret fight.
The 1st fight?I rate his win over Tiger very, very highly.
I agree with you Tommy, I actually like the b/w version better...don't know why I posted the color version.Absolute war this one. The black and white footage is better, like Flea said.
Got to give credit to Paret for standing inside with a warrior like Fullmer, that's basically suicide right there m8s.
Yeah. The second fight is a marmoset.The 1st fight?
That 1st fight was a masterful showing by Emile IMO,..one of the fights that sparked my interest in boxing. It was a great achievement.Yeah. The second fight is a marmoset.
I think of Fullmer as a great fighter. I hadn't even thought that might be a minority opinion(?). He might be a good candidate for the good or great threads. :confBlack and white footage from different angle as well (bit better IMO)
I maintain that Gene doesn't get enough credit. Due to his crudeness and most remembering Ray's amazing KO of him I reckon. He wasn't briliant but he was a very good champion. I uploaded his win over Spider Webb if anyone cares to take a look, it ain't pretty but shows that Fullmer was a little more versatile than most remember.
I've heard people say he's no better than Thulani Malinga.I think of Fullmer as a great fighter. I hadn't even thought that might be a minority opinion(?). He might be a good candidate for the good or great threads. :conf
I was more talking about how he is seen as totally untalented and crude. Which is fair, but I don't like the whole 'you have to look good to be good' line of thought.I think of Fullmer as a great fighter. I hadn't even thought that might be a minority opinion(?). He might be a good candidate for the good or great threads. :conf
Great watch. Sad, obviously, but very professionally put together and interesting to find out that Griffith was a hat maker (obviously gay) and explains why he didn't like to hurt people that bad. He had natural gifts and was moulded into a fighter.The part preceding the Paret trilogy should be interesting to you, how he wound up in boxing, how Clancy trained him from the ground up, also the way his career concluded. Beyond that, I'll not spoil the details for you. Watching it when you have the opportunity will be time well spent.
Lora used to say Fullmer is a poor man's Steve Collins.I've heard people say he's no better than Thulani Malinga.
:lol: Well, for a Mormon, he is a bit of a malingarah. That was a, uh, phonetic, um, word play, erm...thing. That-That was a thing I just did there. Did you catch that? He might not even be Mormon. I just threw that in there. Heh. ...Ah, boy. Good times. Good times.I've heard people say he's no better than Thulani Malinga.
How you rate him seems pretty spot on to me. I never bought into the "eye test" when the "it worked" test made a weewee all over the opponent's eye test. As in "I don't understand, he looked so much slicker when he got the hell beaten out of him for eight straight rounds."I was more talking about how he is seen as totally untalented and crude. Which is fair, but I don't like the whole 'you have to look good to be good' line of thought.
He'd be a great candidate. I'd say he's a notch below 'ATG' but certainly a great fighter and a top 15-20 all time middleweight. Which, seeing how deep that division is, would be a great compliment.
I thought it was interesting how Emile said, "The first thing Gil taught me...was not how to box, how to move. How to step and move in the ring and miss punches and stuff like that." It was an introduction well suited to his temperament.Great watch. Sad, obviously, but very professionally put together and interesting to find out that Griffith was a hat maker (obviously gay) and explains why he didn't like to hurt people that bad. He had natural gifts and was moulded into a fighter.
Oh, and only one of the greatest to ever lace up the gloves at that.