[r1p00pk]

truth or myth?

from my pov it seems that punchers will sit down on most of there punches making most hurt causing them to use up more stamina. Thats why you see guys like canelo fight in spurts and golovkin fighting at a pace where they can fight for 12 rounds. the fact that these guys can produce a larger amount of force than the norm means that they can gas more easily.

Obviously theres the few odd ones out who punch hard but dont punch themselves out. But i find it rare to find heavy punchers throwing larger volume of punches than guys who focus on speed more.

i know someone will point out maidana but remember by the 6th round he started to slow down against floyd.

 

[Cableaddict]

I don't think your logic holds up. Sitting down on a punch doesn't use any more energy, it just adds support to the kinetic chain. In fact, it probably SAVES energy, by being more efficient.

However, one thing to consider is that muscle tissue contains a lot of capillaries, so a guy with larger muscles has a bit more strain on his heart than a slim guy.

- So that MIGHT be a factor, with heavily-muscled punchers, and I suppose Canelo is mostly in that category. Not so for guys that get their power from speed and leverage, like Wilder.

 

[bballchump11]

True for most cases. They'll tense up, load up and use up energy especially when missing.
This doesn't apply to everybody of course like Matthysse

 

[Cableaddict]

BB, I'm not sure which post you were responding to.

Missing a punch does indeed wear you out. Most non-boxers don't seem to understand this. It's one reason why using slips for defense is so effective, vs blocking and turning.

However, when you sit down on a punch and miss, you don't tend to throw your arm as far.

When you DON'T plant that foot, you tend to let your arm go further, and it's harder to stop it, plus you have farther to pull it back. You also often get off balance, and then have to pull you head & torso back much more. These things all wear you out even more.

Mathssee's punches are lovely, because he plants, then throws through his opponent, but only JUST enough for maximum impact. - And he rarely gets off balance.

 

[r1p00pk]

I don't think your logic holds up. Sitting down on a punch doesn't use any more energy, it just adds support to the kinetic chain. In fact, it probably SAVES energy, by being more efficient.

However, one thing to consider is that muscle tissue contains a lot of capillaries, so a guy with larger muscles has a bit more strain on his heart than a slim guy.

- So that MIGHT be a factor, with heavily-muscled punchers, and I suppose Canelo is mostly in that category. Not so for guys that get their power for speed and leverage, like Wilder.

interesting stuff cable, appreciate the response, i disregarded other factors like muscled up heavy punchers. Although i dont really understand anything about the kinetic chain and such as i dont have a degree like you, but i do find if i throw more of an arm punch but enough body into the punch to sting i find i myself could throw almost twice as much, some exaggeration to that of course but im solidly built so your theory might be right. are there any studies that might be linked to how or what muscles are linked to punching? i find that theres too many things we havnt found out yet but we will in the later days

 

[dyna]

Depends, if they get power from pure technique and efficiency then it's a clear no.
If they get their power from constant loading up and swinging wildly, then it's a clear yes.

 

[Mushin]

Throwing fewer punches doesn't necessarily mean having less stamina. I think OP is confusing punch output and stamina.

 

[One to watch]

Throwing power punches is exhausting.the likes of golovkin and Kovalev have fantastic stamina and powers of recovery.