[One to watch]

I stand corrected. Fair do's :thumbsup

It can be either I think mate.

10 minimum bascially.anything like interim has to be 12 though.

 

[Mandanda]

I think Boxrec might have that wrong, I thought all "title fights" were generally 12 rounds now.

Yeah there has been a few times fights have been 10 rounds i personally prefer 12.

Not entirely sure but looking at it I would assume international titles can be 10 or 12? Joshua's against Bakhtov was over 10, Van Heerden himself won the title over 10 aswell.

Doesn't really make much sense though, especially as this is the headliner, you'd have thought it would be over the full distance. I guess we'll see whether Boxrec are right or wrong though on this.

Exactly mate. I'd of thought going to Birmingham they would go with a 12 rounder. Dunno just looks better on the poster and for me as a fan interests me more. Extra few rounds especially with a guy like Gavin where he could lost the rounds due to be tired etc.

ye i wouldnt say hes as good as Bundu though

Does that mean it's a step up or not :lol:?. To me it's a sideways fight with view to bigger things. Eddie loves the intercontinental titles must of had a WWF one back in the day..

 

[Danny]

As has been already stated when he has stepped up previously he has been beaten.

What does that have to do with anything?

You were clearly making the assertion that Gavin wasn't stepping up a level simply because Matchroom are doing what they usually do with new signings and giving him an 'easing in' fight, yet make no mention of the fact he's scheduled to fight Van Heerden in a couple of months, which regardless of what you might think of Van Heerden's ability is unarguably a step-up in level as Eggington would merely be a defence of a domestic level belt that he has already won outright, whilst Van Heerden is a rankings fight towards a world title shot and will probably end up being some sort of eliminator.

As mentioned, pointless thread trying to take a jab at a fighter who's already disprove your point before you even typed out this load of shite.

 

[JohnH]

What does that have to do with anything?

You were clearly making the assertion that Gavin wasn't stepping up a level simply because Matchroom are doing what they usually do with new signings and giving him an 'easing in' fight, yet make no mention of the fact he's scheduled to fight Van Heerden in a couple of months, which regardless of what you might think of Van Heerden's ability is unarguably a step-up in level as Eggington would merely be a defence of a domestic level belt that he has already won outright, whilst Van Heerden is a rankings fight towards a world title shot and will probably end up being some sort of eliminator.

As mentioned, pointless thread trying to take a jab at a fighter who's already disprove your point before you even typed out this load of shite.

I didn't type that load of shit, errm, you did.

 

[Boxfan]

Well,Van Heerden may not be as good as Bundu but he's definitely a step up from Frankies next best opponent,Bradley Skeete. Maybe not by much,but a step up. To me,these 3 boxers are all around the same level. Im just catching up on Thurman/Guerrero,clearly at least one level above that. Saw Egginton last night,and if he were to beat Frankie now,I wouldn't be absolutely amazed. Plenty of time on his side,Id say he will certainly be good enough to win a European title in the future,maybe even get to fringe world level.

 

[PaulieMc]

Is Van Heerden really a step up?. Honest question as i've never actually watched him but Frankie fighting Bundu was a real step up imo. Skeete is a fringe European level fighter to imo.

Frankie constantly tells people he's above the domestic level fighters yet 4 years on here's still fighting them :lol:.

No, at best he's about the same level as Skeete. His best win is over a shot Matthew Hatton yet some people for God knows what reason consider him as a fringe world-level fighter when he's no way near. He had the IBO belt for a while but nobody is arsed about that title anymore.

Gavin will beat him easy. If he doesn't then fuck me, Frankie's career will be an even bigger joke.

 

[Mandanda]

I think Boxrec might have that wrong, I thought all "title fights" were generally 12 rounds now.

Not entirely sure but looking at it I would assume international titles can be 10 or 12? Joshua's against Bakhtov was over 10, Van Heerden himself won the title over 10 aswell.

Doesn't really make much sense though, especially as this is the headliner, you'd have thought it would be over the full distance. I guess we'll see whether Boxrec are right or wrong though on this.

No, at best he's about the same level as Skeete. His best win is over a shot Matthew Hatton yet some people for God knows what reason consider him as a fringe world-level fighter when he's no way near. He had the IBO belt for a while but nobody is arsed about that title anymore.

Gavin will beat him easy. If he doesn't then fuck me, Frankie's career will be an even bigger joke.

Aye that's the feeling i had especially when hearing about the Hatton fight where he wasn't exactly stunning from what i read.

I wouldn't be shocked if Gavin slips up within the first few fights of this deal.

 

[Azadi]

Who the fuck does Frankie Gavin think he is appollo creed? In his last fight he got a gift decision in a fight he clearly lost at domestic level, Gavin for me is the European level version of malignaggi, he thinks he's better then he really is and ends up getting banged around the ring by guys he feels are beneath him

 

[tommygun711]

I think gavin has basically reached his ceiling. He will never be better than a Leonard Bundu.

 

[Boxfan]

Who the fuck does Frankie Gavin think he is appollo creed? In his last fight he got a gift decision in a fight he clearly lost at domestic level, Gavin for me is the European level version of malignaggi, he thinks he's better then he really is and ends up getting banged around the ring by guys he feels are beneath him

Im glad you said European level version of Paulie,but I agree with that. There wasn't much in the Skeete fight for me,I think it could even have been a draw. In a previous fight he'd been put down by a virtually unknown African. I think the penny has started to drop now regarding his level. He'd win the European against somebody who wasn't world level,and thats his ceiling. I keep saying it,but wouldn't be surprised if he lost to this South African. He's nothing if not ambitious,and if he comes here to fight Frank he will have a proper go.

 

[Boxfan]

No, at best he's about the same level as Skeete. His best win is over a shot Matthew Hatton yet some people for God knows what reason consider him as a fringe world-level fighter when he's no way near. He had the IBO belt for a while but nobody is arsed about that title anymore.

Gavin will beat him easy. If he doesn't then fuck me, Frankie's career will be an even bigger joke.

Id say because he struggled with Bradley,he struggles with Van Heerden if they're the same level. Heerden didn't really struggle with Mathew,who wasn't a bad fighter. Gavin struggled with Curtis Woodhouse,who would be honest enough to admit he isn't near world class. So my opinion is,Frank will either win,or lose,a close one with this guy.

 

[One to watch]

People are still not getting it with frankie gavin.

I read that van heerden is ordinary or frings at best.but that is Gavin's level.

Van heerdens cv is better than Gavin's.

 

[raymann]

this is a pretty good first fight for gavin, a good start with matchroom. we now know hes never going to be the fighter we thought he could be, but this is still a very high level. i think right now anything or anyone beyond this would be too much for him.

 

[Back to Bill]

this is a pretty good first fight for gavin, a good start with matchroom. we now know hes never going to be the fighter we thought he could be, but this is still a very high level. i think right now anything or anyone beyond this would be too much for him.

Its not going to be his first fight, he has an ''easing into a new contract mismatch'' before Van Heerden.

 

[raymann]

Its not going to be his first fight, he has an ''easing into a new contract mismatch'' before Van Heerden.

ha. oh right. fuck me its so hard to be a frankie gavin fan. just looking at this now, he had four fights last year, the last one in nov, whats the point of yet another mismatch.

 

[Back to Bill]

ha. oh right. fuck me its so hard to be a frankie gavin fan.

I just don't get the need for these type of fights, Frankie is an experienced pro now, what is the point of fighting a tomato can and I suppose more importantly, whats the point in showing it on TV?

 

[One to watch]

I just don't get the need for these type of fights, Frankie is an experienced pro now, what is the point of fighting a tomato can and I suppose more importantly, whats the point in showing it on TV?

Waste of time.

He should of gone straight into the van heerden fight.matty askins first fight for frank warren is against Ovil mckenzie.whats wrong with that.if someone has been waiting for an opportunity and they are fit and ready then let them go.

 

[Back to Bill]

Waste of time.

He should of gone straight into the van heerden fight.matty askins first fight for frank warren is against Ovil mckenzie.whats wrong with that.if someone has been waiting for an opportunity and they are fit and ready then let them go.

Its frustrating, the Brook card isn't that bad but fights like this will harm the show, kill the atmosphere and piss off the fans who's patience is already wearing very thin, there is more negatives than positives to putting it on and If I was a fightpass subscriber Id be going batshit crazy because at the very least I would expect the stay busy type fight to be on there.

 

[Guest]

Its frustrating, the Brook card isn't that bad but fights like this will harm the show, kill the atmosphere and piss off the fans who's patience is already wearing very thin, there is more negatives than positives to putting it on and If I was a fightpass subscriber Id be going batshit crazy because at the very least I would expect the stay busy type fight to be on there.

The Brook card has 4 others good competative fights of a certain level. I think you are reaching a bit if you are annoyed by this fight. Literally no bill in the history of boxing has not had a fight like this down the card.

 

[neekappa]

Its frustrating, the Brook card isn't that bad but fights like this will harm the show, kill the atmosphere and piss off the fans who's patience is already wearing very thin, there is more negatives than positives to putting it on and If I was a fightpass subscriber Id be going batshit crazy because at the very least I would expect the stay busy type fight to be on there.

Couldn't agree more about these tune-ups being on fight pass. It would raise the quality of the TV show overall, not having to watch these fights, and give fight pass buyers a bit of value for money. It would probably help sell more fight pass subscriptions too so it would be a winner for Hearn as well.