[Philly Shell]

The contract is with Hearn and Queensberry are not being requested to do anything but wait. Wait while Hearn lets the clock tick down to zero. How can Queensberry be blamed for this?

 

[Gareth]

I am amazed Fury and Warren are not pointing to the fact that Fury-AJ has been signed before because that clearly demonstrates that not only have most of the hoops been identified previously they have also been overcome.

This is nothing but a charade.

 

[Gareth]

“Eddie Hearn is stalling everything, because he doesn’t want the fight to happen. And why doesn’t he want the fight to happen? Because Joshua’s lost three out of his last five fights and he figures to lose again if he fights Tyson Fury and so Eddie is in effect being an impediment," Arum told Talk Sport.

“I don’t know of any issues, he sends a draft and then Frank and George [Warren] reply and then we don’t hear from Eddie for days, he’s stalling until it dies of its own volition. I don’t think Joshua is part of that. I think Joshua for whatever reason wants the fight to happen, I know Tyson Fury does.

“But, Eddie doesn’t and so Eddie is doing whatever he can to prevent the fight from happening. From Eddie’s standpoint, he believes he has a valuable asset in Joshua who has now lost three out of five fights and figures to lose again, which could make it four out of six and it would make him a lot less valuable after the event, so he’s trying to prevent it from happening.

“You can’t make a fight unless somebody agrees to the contract and if you put him in a torture chamber, he still wouldn’t agree to the contract. There’s no issues, if there was some issues then I could see it but there are no issues.

"Get in the goddamn room with the Warrens and sit down and finalize the contract and let’s get it signed. I don’t blame Tyson Fury for getting upset at what is happening.”

Arum on Fury-Joshua: Hearn is Stalling Everything, He Doesn't Want Fight To Happen - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)

Enough with the bullshit Hearn.

 

[Ar558a]

Latest from EH, but nothing majorly new, just firing back and those saying he is the hold up, clearly points to Joyce being ordered by Queensbury to call out AJ.

 

[Dynamito]

Eddie now stating fight is off, no surprises there. He is now working over time in blaming Team Fury.

 

[Cableaddict]

I wonder who has the final say, Fast Eddie or AJ? (You know that AJ has to want ths fight, BADLY.)

Most likely Hearn, since he has AJ under contract, but who knows?

 

[Philly Shell]

Fuck Hearn, he clearly didn't want the fight and ensured it didn't happen.

 

[Dynamito]

Fuck Hearn, he clearly didn't want the fight and ensured it didn't happen.

Eddie Hearn on full on bullshit mode. Only the most ardent Eddie Hearn groupies could make any sense of the gibberish he is talking here.

“You gave us a final deadline we did not fulfil the deadline therefore as far as were concerned fights not on and its your fault.” Lol.

 

[Gareth]

The usually polished liar was really struggling there. He has other plans for AJ right now, we know that and he was always going to find a way to steer clear of Fury. It will be interesting to see how much flack Hearn receives because he deserves plenty.

 

[Dynamito]

The usually polished liar was really struggling there. He has other plans for AJ right now, we know that and he was always going to find a way to steer clear of Fury. It will be interesting to see how much flack Hearn receives because he deserves plenty.

It gets even more funnier if you watch all the different interviews on the different channels he gave today.

He can’t keep his story straight slight embellishments on each one, probably forgets the lie he told on the previous channel.

Anyways fans are overwhelmingly blaming him. Only the Eddie Hearns fan club believe him.

 

[Philly Shell]

Hearn is just telling people what they want to hear. Like he always does. But those who were on the fence in their assessment of what has been taking place are now all siding with Fury. Hearn is copping criticism from every direction now and rightfully so. His version of the truth is unravelling interview by interview.

 

[Ar558a]

Clear to me this is all the Fury BS show. Obvious from the above that you are all full paid up members of the Fury brainwashing camp and believing his BS. EH seems open and honest to me and I can't see how you can refute his arguments. If AJ thought EH was screwing him and cutting him out of a massive fight, he would fire him and sign this mythical "finalised contract". But he isn't cause he can see Fury is playing games. Believe what you like but it is clear your love of Fury is clouding your judgement.

 

[Dynamito]

Clear to me this is all the Fury BS show. Obvious from the above that you are all full paid up members of the Fury brainwashing camp and believing his BS. EH seems open and honest to me and I can't see how you can refute his arguments. If AJ thought EH was screwing him and cutting him out of a massive fight, he would fire him and sign this mythical "finalised contract". But he isn't cause he can see Fury is playing games. Believe what you like but it is clear your love of Fury is clouding your judgement.

That’s not much of an argument is it lol. Eddie is so honest that he is giving slightly different account on each interview.

Or maybe you are a fully paid up member of the Eddie Hearn fan club.

Perhaps you can tell which part of the interview you think he is telling the truth.

 

[Gareth]

It gets even more funnier if you watch all the different interviews on the different channels he gave today.

He can’t keep his story straight slight embellishments on each one, probably forgets the lie he told on the previous channel.

Anyways fans are overwhelmingly blaming him. Only the Eddie Hearns fan club believe him.

Very few believing Hearn's version of things now and he is being slated.

Hearn thought he was clever recommending Fury fight Joyce. Then when Joyce called out AJ Hearn saw it as an affront.

 

[Ar558a]

That’s not much of an argument is it lol. Eddie is so honest that he is giving slightly different account on each interview.

Or maybe you are a fully paid up member of the Eddie Hearn fan club.

Perhaps you can tell which part of the interview you think he is telling the truth.

Well it's clear the fight isn't happening and you have to decided blame EH, which I guess is your prerogative, despite the obvious unreasonable behaviour from Fury which he posts himself!
I don't see any reason to disbelieve anything he is saying, he hasn't been unreasonable or suggested anything that I wouldn't expect given the scale of the negotiations required for a fight of this size. The bottom line is Fury threw the fight out there expecting a no so he could call AJ a coward. When he agreed to the terms, Fury had to find a way to move back to his initial plan of fighting Charr which was to put up unrealistic deadlines and still blame AJ which apparently has worked on all of you. Fury really should run for Government, he could be PM put tax on everyone up to 99% and spend his time smoking crack on a desert island and you would all still believe the sun shines out his arse!

 

[Dynamito]

Things were going quite well until Hughie decided use this day to gatecrash by announcing he is pulling out of a fight with Michael Hunter for the second time.

Perhaps AJ can fight him instead and put Hughie who clearly hates fighting out of his misery. And the boxing fans out of their misery for having to endure Hughies fights.

Maybe he is pulling out because he has been offered a fight with AJ.

 

[Dynamito]

Well it's clear the fight isn't happening and you have to decided blame EH, which I guess is your prerogative, despite the obvious unreasonable behaviour from Fury which he posts himself!
I don't see any reason to disbelieve anything he is saying, he hasn't been unreasonable or suggested anything that I wouldn't expect given the scale of the negotiations required for a fight of this size. The bottom line is Fury threw the fight out there expecting a no so he could call AJ a coward. When he agreed to the terms, Fury had to find a way to move back to his initial plan of fighting Charr which was to put up unrealistic deadlines and still blame AJ which apparently has worked on all of you. Fury really should run for Government, he could be PM put tax on everyone up to 99% and spend his time smoking crack on a desert island and you would all still believe the sun shines out his arse!

Eddie clearly did not want that fight he also does not want the Joe Joyce fight.

Notice how in the IFL tv interview towards the very end he was asked about similarities with previous contract negotiations with Wilder. And how Eddie sheepishly deflected that question.

The reason he was asked was because he sent of a contract to Wilders team and then a few days later he said Wilder was ducking stating “It does not take 6 days to sign a contract”.

The problem with the premise of your argument is Eddie yaps so much you can find statements that contradict what he stated previously on every issue.

2 days ago he said Fury should fight Joyce. Now that tables have been turned Joyce called out AJ...so Eddie speaks more waffle to get himself out of that situation.

Last week he says you can’t believe anything Fury says. Today he said Fury gave us a deadline and I believed him.

He gave an interview earlier today on Matchrooms own YouTube channel saying George Warren has not got back to them since wednesday and gave him a deadline therefore they are moving on. Then a few hours later he says George Warren spoke to his head of operations Frank Smith on Friday and they were moving because Fury called AJ a dosser and gave him a deadline to sign a contract.

Over the weekend he was in the Daily express saying AJ can’t sign the deal because it might put him in breach of contract with other unspecified commercial partners.

Eddie bullshits so much even he does not believe what he is saying.

So I am surprised you think he is an honest stakeholder.

I give him his due he has been honest when he has admitted in his epic IFL tv interviews. “ I do bullshit a lot...” and he does and he was definitely truthful about this.

 

[Cableaddict]

Dynamito, that's a great summary. 👍


And hilarious.

 

[Ar558a]

Eddie clearly did not want that fight he also does not want the Joe Joyce fight.

Notice how in the IFL tv interview towards the very end he was asked about similarities with previous contract negotiations with Wilder. And how Eddie sheepishly deflected that question.

The reason he was asked was because he sent of a contract to Wilders team and then a few days later he said Wilder was ducking stating “It does not take 6 days to sign a contract”.

The problem with the premise of your argument is Eddie yaps so much you can find statements that contradict what he stated previously on every issue.

2 days ago he said Fury should fight Joyce. Now that tables have been turned Joyce called out AJ...so Eddie speaks more waffle to get himself out of that situation.

Last week he says you can’t believe anything Fury says. Today he said Fury gave us a deadline and I believed him.

He gave an interview earlier today on Matchrooms own YouTube channel saying George Warren has not got back to them since wednesday and gave him a deadline therefore they are moving on. Then a few hours later he says George Warren spoke to his head of operations Frank Smith on Friday and they were moving because Fury called AJ a dosser and gave him a deadline to sign a contract.

Over the weekend he was in the Daily express saying AJ can’t sign the deal because it might put him in breach of contract with other unspecified commercial partners.

Eddie bullshits so much even he does not believe what he is saying.

So I am surprised you think he is an honest stakeholder.

I give him his due he has been honest when he has admitted in his epic IFL tv interviews. “ I do bullshit a lot...” and he does and he was definitely truthful about this.

You can't use Clearly, what you mean is in your opinion based on your personal, obviously anti EH view.
If you come from the perspective that EH is never acting in good faith and is constantly trying to lie to the public and avoid getting AJ into big fights then I'm sure your view makes sense.
I don't see how AJ fought Usyk at all if you hold that view, why didn't he just drop the WBO belt? Or for that matter why did the WK fight happen? Surely he could have done a Wilder and fight nobodies for year after year?

I'm not saying EH is perfect and given how many interviews he gives there will always be some inconsistencies but you can't use those as reasoning that everything he says is a lie.

Given it is blatantly obvious that Fury is a liar, it takes some logical gymnastics to try and conclude that a businessman who would be working against his own interest to stymie the fight is the culprit.

 

[Philly Shell]

Ditto from me @Dynamito. You have picked Hearn's bullshit apart as well as anyone and as he says so himself 'I do bullshit a lot.'